Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 13 Feb 2018, 00:13

convair wrote:
11 Feb 2018, 13:10
OO-SFX AOG in Douala?
Looks more like an error or a gap on Flightradar24:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-sfx

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by DIBO » 13 Feb 2018, 21:18

City-SN SJJ emergency - returning to BRU rwy 19 shortly after departure:
Firecrews standing by and on the rwy after landing
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by DIBO » 13 Feb 2018, 21:33

Still several inspection & fire vehicles around a/c
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by TLspotting » 13 Feb 2018, 23:16

A worker @ BRU, told me there was a fuel leak...
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by jan_olieslagers » 14 Feb 2018, 06:41

"Fuel leak" was also mentioned at VRT Radio news this morning - along with their usual nonsense of "noodlanding" (their translation of "emergency landing").
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Boeing767copilot » 14 Feb 2018, 07:05

jan_olieslagers wrote:
14 Feb 2018, 06:41
"Fuel leak" was also mentioned at VRT Radio news this morning - along with their usual nonsense of "emergency landing" ...
This time it was a real emergency landing with rescue workers on the runway and several AC in holding pattern.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by KriVa » 14 Feb 2018, 09:19

jan_olieslagers wrote:
14 Feb 2018, 06:41
"Fuel leak" was also mentioned at VRT Radio news this morning - along with their usual nonsense of "emergency landing" ...
No nonsense, both are correct.
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by jan_olieslagers » 14 Feb 2018, 11:37

It's a bit of a difficulty that our Dutch vocabulary is so limited. English has a general term "emergency landing" with subclasses "forced landing" and "precautionary landing". For once (and only for this once!) I agree with nl.wikipedia.org: "noodlanding" should only be used for a forced landing - which this was obviously not. In this case, the generalist "emergency landing" has been (incorrectly, IMHO) translated by "noodlanding".

The presence of emergency vehicles does not mean anything: they are often activated as soon as there is the slightest indication of risk - sometimes exaggerated, perhaps, but correct on the long term: if uncertain, err on the safe side.

And of course all this is only a side note. The essential thing is that none were injured. One day we may read an investigation report, and know what went wrong for a beginning - if anyone still remembers this incident more than a year later.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by b.lufthansa » 14 Feb 2018, 12:03

I would defo make a whatever landing after a fuel leak!

It came back to Brussels, it didn't perform its normal flight. If my car leaks fuel I would also make an emergency stop.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 14 Feb 2018, 12:08

jan_olieslagers wrote:
14 Feb 2018, 11:37
It's a bit of a difficulty that our Dutch vocabulary is so limited. English has a general term "emergency landing" with subclasses "forced landing" and "precautionary landing". For once (and only for this once!) I agree with nl.wikipedia.org: "noodlanding" should only be used for a forced landing - which this was obviously not. In this case, the generalist "emergency landing" has been (incorrectly, IMHO) translated by "noodlanding".

The presence of emergency vehicles does not mean anything: they are often activated as soon as there is the slightest indication of risk - sometimes exaggerated, perhaps, but correct on the long term: if uncertain, err on the safe side.
This is what my Dikke van Dale says on page 631 (printed edition indeed):
Noodlanding: "gedwongen landing, op een andere plaats dan die van bestemming".
Translation: Emergency landing: forced landing at a different place then destination.

Methinks it's quite obvious that an immediate return with a fuel leak call, with emergency services on standby and even entering the runway, is an emergency landing.

Call probably was PAN or mayday (on a scale: return-but-not-declaring-emergency, PAN, mayday). I listen to AMS ATC every now and then, and those three are the grades I hear there for problems.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by KriVa » 14 Feb 2018, 12:49

Once more: it was an emergency landing, since emergency was declared.
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by jan_olieslagers » 14 Feb 2018, 12:51

Well, I never questioned it was an emergency landing. I questioned the translation of "emergency landing" to "noodlanding". Must admit that was not very clear from my initial posting.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by KriVa » 14 Feb 2018, 13:00

Since it was pretty much a direct return to a suitable airfield within a decent range, I'd say forced landing (noodlanding) is a pretty correct description here. They didn't enter the hold, but realised quite soon they wanted to be on the ground ASAP.
By the way, I think I'm probably the last person you'll ever see using the moniker "emergency landing" when the situation doesn't call for it. A precautionary landing is not an emergency landing.
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by Passenger » 16 Feb 2018, 19:40

Today's SN-1194 Grenoble-Brussels (Brussels Airlines OO-SNH A-320) was a "plaster flight" for Europ Assistance.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-snh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... h#1072c6f9

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by sn26567 » 16 Feb 2018, 21:00

Passenger wrote:
16 Feb 2018, 19:40
Today's SN-1194 Grenoble-Brussels (Brussels Airlines OO-SNH A-320) was a "plaster flight" for Europ Assistance.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-snh
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... h#1072c6f9
TV report on RTBF La Une, from 31:00 : https://www.rtbf.be/auvio/detail_jt-19h30?id=2312253
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by domtom » 17 Feb 2018, 22:35

Not an abnormality as such, but anyone know why Hi Fly Volvo race CS-TQW is in Brussels?

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by lumumba » 17 Feb 2018, 22:53

Tomorrow the SN flight to Luanda is cancelled.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by convair » 18 Feb 2018, 14:06

lumumba wrote:
17 Feb 2018, 22:53
Tomorrow the SN flight to Luanda is cancelled.
Replaced by SN9903 (SFY) to rescue SFO AOG in Banjul since Friday.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by lumumba » 18 Feb 2018, 14:07

convair wrote:
18 Feb 2018, 14:06
lumumba wrote:
17 Feb 2018, 22:53
Tomorrow the SN flight to Luanda is cancelled.
Replaced by SN9903 (SFY) to rescue SFO AOG in Banjul since Friday.
Ok thanks....for the information.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

Post by convair » 20 Feb 2018, 12:49

SN1359 (OO-SFT) aborted take-off at BRU.

(source: FR24)

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