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Lufthansa in 2017

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I am surprised that we don't have yet a topic on the parent company of our national airline. Let's start it now with a big news item, or rather a rumour that, if true, could change the aviation picture in Europe and the Middle East:

Lufthansa and Etihad are reportedly preparing to cooperate further, including codesharing on long-haul routes and access to the Star Alliance network, along with more acquisition of aircraft operated by Air Berlin.
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Lufthansa may reportedly reduce its order for 20 Boeing 777-9s.
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Lufthansa will now operate A350-900 aircraft on its Munich – Hong Kong service as of 12 September 2017, replacing A340-600.
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Lufthansa is interested in helping to shape the Italian aviation market but is not willing to take over Alitalia (Italy) in its current shape.

Lufthansa would be interested in leasing more jets and crew from Air Berlin but said that hurdles remained to a full takeover.
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A full take over of Air Berlin by LH would mean a near-monopoly in Germany. Interesting to hear that LH might however be interested in reshaping Italian aviation. Imho, based on the sabena experience, and in order to prevent a sabena-like scenario, the major shareholders should let the airline go bankrupt and create a new one from scratch, like SN Brussels Airlines, with competitive wages and working conditions. It's hard, but unavoidable in the current context. They could still keep the name Alitalia on the planes (and add something like "International" in the statutes and legal documents).

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05 Aug 2017, 18:26
A full take over of Air Berlin by LH would mean a near-monopoly in Germany. Interesting to hear that LH might however be interested in reshaping Italian aviation. Imho, based on the sabena experience, and in order to prevent a sabena-like scenario, the major shareholders should let the airline go bankrupt and create a new one from scratch, like SN Brussels Airlines, with competitive wages and working conditions. It's hard, but unavoidable in the current context. They could still keep the name Alitalia on the planes (and add something like "International" in the statutes and legal documents).
I fully agree with you on that one. But is Etihad ready to fully write-off its investment?

For the name on the documents, why not use Nuova Alitalia.

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Lufthansa coming closer to Etihad, despite the latter's ties with Air Berlin?

Etihad / Lufthansa expands European codeshares from August 2017

Etihad Airways and Lufthansa starting this month are expanding codeshare partnership, which sees selected Lufthansa’s intra-European service carrying Etihad’s EY-coded flight numbers. Planned codeshare routes approximately from 13AUG17 as follow.

ETIHAD operated by Lufthansa
Frankfurt – Barcelona
Frankfurt – Copenhagen
Frankfurt – Helsinki
Frankfurt – Prague
Frankfurt – Valencia
Munich – Barcelona
Munich – Copenhagen
Munich – Helsinki
Munich – Prague
Munich – Valencia

Source: Routes onlinbe
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Lufthansa chairman (and former CEO) Wolfgang Mayrhuber to resign effective 24 September 2017, replaced by Karl-Ludwig Kley.
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Air Dolomiti (Italy) to add new E195 service from Munich to Milan Malpensa on 29 October 2017, via Lufthansa codeshare.
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The Lufthansa Group will focus on the A320 in regards to the used aircraft market, as it has commonality among its subsidiaries. For long-haul, the Group will acquire used A330s or B777s via purchase or lease, as required.

Lufthansa will start temporary service from Frankfurt to Athens and Barcelona, as well as from Munich to Madrid and Oslo on 01 November. Service from Frankfurt to Madrid to start on 01 December 2017. All routes to operate with leased B737-800 from SunExpress Germany.
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Lufthansa Technik and Lufthansa selected Sabena Technics (France) to carry out the aircraft modification programme on the airline’s A330 fleet.
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Lufthansa Group leased 10 A320s from other airlines and plans to use LGW (Germany) Q400s on routes formerly served with A320s to provide additional capacity. In addition, B747s will fly between Berlin and Frankfurt during November 2017. Lufthansa is also buying up seat capacity on NIKI (Austria) and LGW flights for the winter 2017/18 season.

Lufthansa to operate its Munich – Tokyo Haneda route with A350, replacing A340-600, from 01 December 2017.
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Lufthansa was asked by Germany’s cartel office (Bundeskartelamt) for information on ticket prices after receiving complaints about rising fares following the collapse of Air Berlin.

The dangers of a monopoly are looming...
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27 Nov 2017, 18:01
Lufthansa was asked by Germany’s cartel office (Bundeskartelamt) for information on ticket prices after receiving complaints about rising fares following the collapse of Air Berlin.

The dangers of a monopoly are looming...
Why? Less competition means higher revenue possibilities AND more competition opportunities. Time for others to role up their sleeves and start the fight :)

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To be fair, the prices are already quite high: a flight between BRU and FRA for July next year is already more than 100 euro's one way. That's quite a lot of money for a student who wants to go and spot some planes in FRA. I guess they can ask what they want as they are the only company on that route. On such routes, you'd need a LCC to combat them and make them lower their price.

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Even for avgeeks, the train is sometimes the best solution :

https://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query ... stsel=C3-0!&

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Yeah sure, but that is just an example to show that they ask a quite high price so many months in advance for an economy seat and this is in my opinion only because of the fact that they have a monopoly on the Brussels-Frankfurt route. If Ryanair or Easyjet steps in on this route and asks only 50 or even 75 Euros, LH will have to lower its prices in order to get their planes filled. If I could choose between 2 or 3 airlines on the same route, I'll probably go for the cheapest unless there is only a small difference in price (let's say 5 to 10 Euros).

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