Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by Passenger » 11 Jun 2019, 18:06

lumumba wrote:
11 Jun 2019, 17:46
You have to understand that if the EU kill Alitalia it's a big revolution in Italy, Italians will never but never accept that and like I said before it's a very important tool for the Italian tourism!!!!

And the EU is very week for the moment a lot a predicting the end of the EU...

Even in Flanders 43% voted for parties that are opposed or want to get out of the EU and Schengen it's a bit the same situation in Italy.
Every phrase from your post is nonsense. And sometimes several nonsense in one phrase. Example: the EU is not going "to kill Alitalia". It is European bureaucrats - and not politicians - that will decide, yes or no, if the loans are illegal state aid. They do that based upon a check list with parameters and upon jurisdiction from previous cases. When the decision is "state aid", Italy may protest against that decision and Italy may go into appeal. But Italy will have to accept the decision and request payback from Alitalia.

Regarding your "even in Flanders 43% voted...": your comment proves that you have no idea at all why they voted NVA and VB. And that is all I say, as the webmaster wants to keep party politics away as much as possible.

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by lumumba » 11 Jun 2019, 18:35

Passenger wrote:
11 Jun 2019, 18:06
lumumba wrote:
11 Jun 2019, 17:46
You have to understand that if the EU kill Alitalia it's a big revolution in Italy, Italians will never but never accept that and like I said before it's a very important tool for the Italian tourism!!!!

And the EU is very week for the moment a lot a predicting the end of the EU...

Even in Flanders 43% voted for parties that are opposed or want to get out of the EU and Schengen it's a bit the same situation in Italy.
Every phrase from your post is nonsense. And sometimes several nonsense in one phrase. Example: the EU is not going "to kill Alitalia". It is European bureaucrats - and not politicians - that will decide, yes or no, if the loans are illegal state aid. They do that based upon a check list with parameters and upon jurisdiction from previous cases. When the decision is "state aid", Italy may protest against that decision and Italy may go into appeal. But Italy will have to accept the decision and request payback from Alitalia.

Regarding your "even in Flanders 43% voted...": your comment proves that you have no idea at all why they voted NVA and VB. And that is all I say, as the webmaster wants to keep party politics away as much as possible.
Let's see how the EU will react but in my opinion they will do nothing because the reasons I mention before.

The EU is at the edge they will not take a risk to put more people against them it is and will be a political decision!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by luchtzak » 11 Jun 2019, 19:38

lumumba wrote:
11 Jun 2019, 17:46
Even in Flanders 43% voted for parties that are opposed or want to get out of the EU and Schengen it's a bit the same situation in Italy.
Lumumba, please no politics in the forums. Figures like the ones you mention don't contribute to the discussion on Alitalia's future.

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Post by sn26567 » 13 Jun 2019, 12:21

Italy’s Industry Minister Luigi Di Maio said the government was in a final rush to orchestrate a rescue of Alitalia, with Ferrovie dello Stato leading the consortium of investors. The deadline will be extended again by 15 days or one month.
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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by sn26567 » 02 Jul 2019, 16:31

A new deadline has passed, and nothing happened.

Nothing? Maybe a new investor: Avianca Brazil owner Germán Efromovich reportedly commenced negotiating the purchase 30% of Alitalia's shares.
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Post by TLspotting » 04 Jul 2019, 15:09

Avianca Brazil is bankrupt as well...
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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by Ansett » 04 Jul 2019, 17:19

Just to cheer this thread up a bit : "like most Italian dramas, it should end with a happy wedding, a party and lot's of wine, drinking and singing"....(I hope :) )

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by sn26567 » 10 Jul 2019, 14:09

Italy's infrastructure group Atlantia (property of the Benetton family) is considering to buy a 35-40% stake in troubled carrier Alitalia for an investment of around 300 million euros.

Last month, the government postponed for the fourth time a deadline for Ferrovie to present a binding rescue bid for Alitalia, extending it to July 15.

Any other interested candidates? Martini? Fiat? Ferrari? Armani?

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-atlan ... KKCN1U50H4
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Post by jan_olieslagers » 10 Jul 2019, 14:48

... Banco Vaticano? ;)

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Re: Alitalia near bankruptcy. Can it be saved?

Post by sn26567 » 15 Jul 2019, 21:19

sn26567 wrote:
10 Jul 2019, 14:09
Last month, the government postponed for the fourth time a deadline for Ferrovie to present a binding rescue bid for Alitalia, extending it to July 15.
Today is 15 July. A decision is near.

Alitalia administrators received four expressions of interest to join a consortium for the rescue of the ailing Italian airline.

The Alitalia rescue plan would involve the loss of (only) 1,000 jobs, out of the 11,000 workforce.
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