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Post by sn26567 » 19 Sep 2019, 23:34

Ryanair thinks February or the start of March 2020 is the most realistic timetable for it to start flying the grounded B737 MAX aircraft, says Group CEO Michael O’Leary.
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Post by sn26567 » 20 Sep 2019, 19:23

It takes a long time to read, but this article of the New York Times is a great overview of the 737 MAX crashes. It shows that the pilots of both crashed aircraft have a large responsibility by lack of airmanship and that Airbus planes are intrinsically superior to Boeing ones. A great piece of journalism by ba former pilot who turned to journalism!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/maga ... -ios-share

The article was sent to me by an American friend, but the next day André Berger (chief pilot of TUI Belgium) mentioned it on Twitter in a rare tweet.
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Post by sn-remember » 20 Sep 2019, 22:23

The NYT pointing to lack of airmanship skills of the crew involved prepares the opinion in the forthcoming battle for compensations that might end up in courts.

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Post by sn26567 » 23 Sep 2019, 16:46

Icelandair says the estimated B737 MAX impact on EBIT quantified to date as of 01 August 2019 amounted to US$140 million and has increased during recent months since the suspension is still ongoing.

The carrier has reached an interim agreement with Boeing regarding compensation.
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Post by Bracebrace » 23 Sep 2019, 17:45

sn26567 wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 19:23
It takes a long time to read, but this article of the New York Times is a great overview of the 737 MAX crashes. It shows that the pilots of both crashed aircraft have a large responsibility by lack of airmanship and that Airbus planes are intrinsically superior to Boeing ones. A great piece of journalism by ba former pilot who turned to journalism!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/maga ... -ios-share

The article was sent to me by an American friend, but the next day André Berger (chief pilot of TUI Belgium) mentioned it on Twitter in a rare tweet.
https://medium.com/@elanhead/the-limits ... 546f20ec9a

Glad I'm not alone, and profoundly agree with this "answer".

"It is an attitude that the rest of the aviation industry is, fortunately, starting to move beyond."

"Even if, as Langewiesche implies, pilots of an earlier era had superior stick-and-rudder skills, they still crashed airliners at a rate that would be unacceptable today. Perhaps Langewiesche’s heroic pilot ideal never actually existed."
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Post by luchtzak » 25 Sep 2019, 08:30

Regulators knew before crashes that 737 MAX trim control was confusing in some conditions: document

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Post by sn26567 » 25 Sep 2019, 12:26

FAA is struggling to retain control of recertification of the B737 MAX, a task made more difficult by Indonesian investigators who fault the design and manufacturing oversight as key factors that led to the crash.

FAA says the B737 MAX’s return to service after two fatal crashes will be up to the safety assessment of each country.

https://www.aviation24.be/organisations ... ssessment/

IATA says aviation regulators around the world should come to an agreement on when the B737 MAX can return to service, or risk hurting public trust with a piecemeal approach.

US federal investigators say some FAA inspectors who worked on training requirements for the troubled B737 MAX planes and other aircraft were underqualified and the air safety agency misled lawmakers about it.
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Post by Airbus330lover » 25 Sep 2019, 12:50

IMO, MAX on the ground surely until 2/2020....

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Post by sn26567 » 26 Sep 2019, 21:35

Boeing has settled the first claims stemming from the crash of a Lion Air B737 MAX, with families of those killed set to receive at least US$1.2 million apiece.
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Post by sn-remember » 26 Sep 2019, 23:50

This article from the tdg reports the NTSB conclusions not pointing to a lack of airmanship in the two crashes. They just stress the point that the pilot's responses to the emergency situation was not the one expected by the engineers at conception time.
And they recommend a more effective analysis of the pilot's reactions in emergency cases to help correct this bug and enhance practices in future developments.
Full story : www.tdg.ch/monde/737-max-pilotes-reagi- ... y/22998679

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Post by cathay belgium » 28 Sep 2019, 09:12

Hi,

Cracks were found in the attachment of the wings in an early stage of the life span of the NG planes..

It just doesn't stop ;)

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Post by sn26567 » 29 Sep 2019, 16:58

The 737 Max wasn’t the first Boeing plane to include a flight control system called MCAS. But the original, on a military tanker jet (KC-46 derived from the 767), was more robust and included key safeguards that were omitted from the civilian passenger jet version.

https://t.co/wV51eBMyXa?amp=1
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Post by sn26567 » 03 Oct 2019, 15:08

A Boeing engineer on the 737 Max filed an ethics complaint this year saying a system that may have reduced crash risks was rejected over its cost.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/busi ... ashes.html
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Post by sn26567 » 03 Oct 2019, 22:28

American Airlines Group pilots want compensation for lost pay stemming from flights cancelled as a result of the B737 MAX grounding, the head of the airline’s pilot union said.
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Post by sn26567 » 08 Oct 2019, 10:41

Southwest Airlines pilots sue Boeing for misleading them about 737 MAX airworthiness

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/sout ... orthiness/
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Post by sn26567 » 09 Oct 2019, 16:19

American Airlines said it expects Boeing’s 737 MAX will remain out of service until January, over a month beyond a previous projection.

More worrying, this time for the 737 NG: Late last night, Southwest Airlines confirmed that two of its jets were found to have critical equipment, known as "pickle forks," with cracks. It's a piece that keeps the wing attached to the fuselage, never supposed to break.


US and EU regulators said they were still reviewing changes to B737 MAX software after two fatal crashes, throwing into question the speed at which the grounded aircraft can return to service.
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Late last night, Southwest Airlines confirmed that two of its jets were found to have critical equipment, known as "pickle forks," with cracks. It's a piece that keeps the wing attached to the fuselage, never supposed to break.
It's getting worse: More than 5% of older Boeing 737 jets that underwent urgent inspections in the past week have cracks and will have to be temporarily grounded.

A total of 493 planes were inspected and 25 had evidence of cracking.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nspections
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sn26567 wrote:
09 Oct 2019, 23:47
sn26567 wrote:
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Late last night, Southwest Airlines confirmed that two of its jets were found to have critical equipment, known as "pickle forks," with cracks. It's a piece that keeps the wing attached to the fuselage, never supposed to break.
It's getting worse: More than 5% of older Boeing 737 jets that underwent urgent inspections in the past week have cracks and will have to be temporarily grounded.

A total of 493 planes were inspected and 25 had evidence of cracking.
Boeing says it regrets the impact a structural cracks issue on its B737 NG jetliners was having on airlines and is actively working with airline customers to procure parts, develop repair-and-replace plans, and provide technical support.

GOL said it had grounded 11 B737 NGs after structural cracks were found.
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by sn26567 » 11 Oct 2019, 21:58

Boeing is planning a B737 MAX 9ER, says Steven Udvar-Hazy, founder and chairman of Air Lease Corp.

FAA failed to properly review B737 MAX jet’s anti-stall system, finds the Joint Authorities Technical Review.

https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/s79 ... 9tWAQAAAAA
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Boeing says it regrets the impact a structural cracks issue on its B737 NG jetliners was having on airlines and is actively working with airline customers to procure parts, develop repair-and-replace plans, and provide technical support.

GOL said it had grounded 11 B737 NGs after structural cracks were found.

Boeing says that airlines had inspected 810 of the company’s B737 NG jets around the world and found 38 structural cracks requiring repair and replacement of the affected parts.
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by sn26567 » 16 Oct 2019, 14:24

An Icelandair Boeing 737MAX is inbound Shannon airport for storage.

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