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Re: Airbus A320 and A320neo news

Post by Magiktrix » 15 Sep 2019, 22:40

Desert Rat wrote:
12 Sep 2019, 17:36
Never heard about that one
A couple of years ago Airbus created a new cabin layout, able to add 2 extra row of seats. It was called the A320MAX. All, but the last one, in the Bruair fleet are converted. Airbus did it by moving the two toilets that are left and right behind the last row. This free the space for more seats. The 2 toilets are in the galley facing the back of the plane.

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Economically its nice. But it has a couple of operational problem.
The biggest one is for the cabin crew. Working in half the space, with a constant flow of pax going to the toilet is not easy.
The second one is the inside size of each toilet. You better be slim.
And the final one is the shift of cg. These toilets are heavy, so it has an impact on the cg. The other impact for sure are the extra pax.
So to keep the cg of the aircraft in the envelope, more luggage are loaded in the front cargo.
The aircraft fly perfectly well with a good margin.
The problem is during disembarkation. When the passenger in front of the overwing exit are gone and if the cargo is already unloaded, the aircraft might tail tip. This the reason why the ground crew is allowed to unload the front cargo, only when 10 pax are still onboard. Its indicated by a card that the cockpit turn from red to green. Its visible in this picture. Follow the link for the full size image.

https://www.planephotos.net/photo/18021 ... 14_OO-SND/

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And there is a procedure, if the crew feel the aircraft moving, the procedure is to stop disembarkation but to bring pax to the front.

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Re: Airbus A320 and A320neo news

Post by Desert Rat » 16 Sep 2019, 04:52

Interresting info, thanks.
On the LH case I think the limitation is nevertheless linked to the ELAC software issue.
On the new cabin layout from Airbus, it is called spaceflex if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Airbus A320 and A320neo news

Post by PttU » 16 Sep 2019, 08:00

Magiktrix wrote:
15 Sep 2019, 22:40
All, but the last one, in the Bruair fleet are converted. Airbus did it by moving the two toilets that are left and right behind the last row. This free the space for more seats. The 2 toilets are in the galley facing the back of the plane.

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The binspire magazine and https://www.brusselsairlines.com/en-be/ ... fleet.aspx mention 180 seats, so 30 rows, but indeed the toilets placed as in the Max-configuration.

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Re: Airbus A320 and A320neo news

Post by sn26567 » 23 Sep 2019, 16:47

Jazeera Airways (Kuwait) wants to acquire A321LR aircraft to open up London – Thailand via Kuwait, and is considering the A321XLR to allow flights as far as Hong Kong and Guangzhou. The carrier is mulling a requirement for around 25 more Neos that could include the LR or XLR.


S7 Airlines (Russia) begins disposing of its A319 fleet, which it has been operating since 2016. The carrier operates 18 A319s. Too small?
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Re: Airbus A320 and A320neo news

Post by sn26567 » 11 Oct 2019, 21:28

Aer Lingus has been forced to postpone the introduction of up to two new routes between Dublin and the US until 2021 due to continuing delivery delays with the A321LR.
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