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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DeltaWiskey » 26 Nov 2019, 18:41

Duke wrote:
26 Nov 2019, 17:11

Is it also painted in the modified Brussels Airlines colours with the white belly, like OO-SFF?
How long does the cabin retrofit usually take?
It's still in CX colors, but without the titles. It will be painted after the cabin mod.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 11 Dec 2019, 22:46

CityJet Avro RJ85 registered EI-RJU, serial E2367, has begun flying for Brussels Airlines from late November 2019. She flew to BHX on 26 Nov and later made several flights from 7 Dec (GOT, BHX, BLL).

Not exactly a fleet renewal, especially since that RJ85 has 6-breast seating!
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 12 Dec 2019, 05:56

sn26567 wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 22:46
.... especially since that RJ85 has 6-breast seating!
Which seems appropriate for a feeder flight.
:lol:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 12 Dec 2019, 08:57

Oops! :mrgreen: :oops:

6-abreast of course.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Stij » 12 Dec 2019, 09:18

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 05:56
sn26567 wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 22:46
.... especially since that RJ85 has 6-breast seating!
Which seems appropriate for a feeder flight.
:lol:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by convair » 12 Dec 2019, 10:35

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 05:56
sn26567 wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 22:46
.... especially since that RJ85 has 6-breast seating!
Which seems appropriate for a feeder flight.
:lol:

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Brilliant! :lol:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 12 Dec 2019, 16:09

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
12 Dec 2019, 05:56
sn26567 wrote:
11 Dec 2019, 22:46
.... especially since that RJ85 has 6-breast seating!
Which seems appropriate for a feeder flight.
:lol:

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 07 Jan 2020, 22:16

Are there still A330-300 with seats of other airlines in the fleet?
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DeltaWiskey » 08 Jan 2020, 05:52

SFF & SFC if I remember correctly.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 08 Jan 2020, 10:10

DeltaWiskey wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 05:52
SFF & SFC if I remember correctly.
Thanks
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by HQ_BRU_Lover » 08 Jan 2020, 10:20

When can we expect a new Belgian icon? I thought one was foreseen this year as well?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lucas » 08 Jan 2020, 10:57

HQ_BRU_Lover wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 10:20
When can we expect a new Belgian icon? I thought one was foreseen this year as well?
I think Reckham is going away this year. Maybe they will paint that aircraft in a new icon. If there is money for it of course...

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 08 Jan 2020, 22:40

HQ_BRU_Lover wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 10:20
When can we expect a new Belgian icon? I thought one was foreseen this year as well?
At the inauguration of Bruegel, a new icon was indeed announced for this year. But Reboot might have changed the plans...
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Atlantis » 12 Jan 2020, 19:39

Just a thought.

Recently LH ordered a huge number of new airplanes for the group. Of course not for SN bcs of a lot of reasons LH gave.
But look also at the mess they created. First to fire the management of SN which was able to make some profit. After the new one came and the disaster with EW started. Reboot came and the CEO again went away.

I don't understand the behavior of LH in this. LH could have much more benefits from it if they would invest more in SN. Instead of replacing 7 old A330 by other old A330 they could have ordered for SN also the new A330NEO. It would give them even a bigger discount by Airbus.

People sees SN on long haul as not reliable, constant problems etc. This gives a bad image not only to SN but also to the group.
After receiving new airplanes LH could say "OK, try to make now profit". New planes, less costs, fuel efficient, etc. More benefits in the long term then buying old planes who are on the ground with issues.
They have to become big again in Africa. Competition is eating more and more while SN cannot act

Now they left SN in a very uncertain future. They even cannot sell SN bcs the value is very low.

This is exactly the kind of shareholder who don't care

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Matt » 13 Jan 2020, 09:56

Atlantis wrote:
12 Jan 2020, 19:39
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I don't understand the behavior of LH in this. LH could have much more benefits from it if they would invest more in SN. Instead of replacing 7 old A330 by other old A330 they could have ordered for SN also the new A330NEO. It would give them even a bigger discount by Airbus.
Not sure if the NEO is a plane SN really needs. I think an a330 ceo with trent700 is ideal for the operations right now done by SN. Heck, it would even be a good thing if LH got new a350's and that the 'older' a330's go to SN.

+LH did not order the A330 neo but 787's and A350's. So a discount would be rather difficult. The A350 is a plane that is too big right now for SN, the 787-9 is also a plane SN does not need right now. ( both could be nice if they'd be expanding to Asia or in the US, but right now that is not the case at all )

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by convair » 13 Jan 2020, 11:51

OO-SFC now on its way to Amman as SN9907 (maintenance/cabin retrofit?).

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Matt » 13 Jan 2020, 12:07

convair wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 11:51
OO-SFC now on its way to Amman as SN9907 (maintenance/cabin retrofit?).
Does that also mean that OO-SFH is finally ready ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by CTBke » 13 Jan 2020, 13:37

Matt wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 12:07
convair wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 11:51
OO-SFC now on its way to Amman as SN9907 (maintenance/cabin retrofit?).
Does that also mean that OO-SFH is finally ready ?
maybe yes, maybe not :-)
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by airbuske » 14 Jan 2020, 12:32

CTBke wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 13:37
Matt wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 12:07
convair wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 11:51
OO-SFC now on its way to Amman as SN9907 (maintenance/cabin retrofit?).
Does that also mean that OO-SFH is finally ready ?
maybe yes, maybe not :-)
Will be normally ready at the end of Jan.
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