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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Bel33 » 17 May 2019, 15:47

You are right:
- SFV and SFY leave the fleet this month
- SFW leaves in september 19

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Post by sounilr21 » 17 May 2019, 19:32

Bel33 wrote:
17 May 2019, 15:47
You are right:
- SFV and SFY leave the fleet this month
- SFW leaves in september 19
A330-343X SFF and SFL (Eurowings livery) are planned to enter in the fleet in june.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DannyVDB » 18 May 2019, 10:22

Hi all,

Does anyone know how long installing the new cabin takes. The first one - SDF - took much longer than expected (for various reasons I guess), but normally it would take not more than one month, correct?

I guess first SFY will go since it was foreseen to let it go in April, but was extended a bit due to the problems with SFU.

Also, I read somewhere that they want to have 5 planes with the new interior by August. So that would mean they have to accelerate the process a bit and have one of the next months (June or July) two planes done in one month.

Just some assumptions ...

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by C96C » 18 May 2019, 10:35

DannyVDB wrote:
18 May 2019, 10:22

Also, I read somewhere that they want to have 5 planes with the new interior by August. So that would mean they have to accelerate the process a bit and have one of the next months (June or July) two planes done in one month.

I thought they said 5 planes with premium economy installed by August, SFT & SFZ do not get the new interior, but their cabin is somewhat modified with premium economy I thought. So I think they will achieve this goal by August.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by viennafly » 18 May 2019, 11:07

DannyVDB wrote:
18 May 2019, 10:22
Hi all,

Does anyone know how long installing the new cabin takes. The first one - SDF - took much longer than expected (for various reasons I guess), but normally it would take not more than one month, correct?

It took longer due to certification problems, actually my honest guess would be it takes about 25-30 days for one A/C.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by DannyVDB » 18 May 2019, 14:22

C96C wrote:
18 May 2019, 10:35
DannyVDB wrote:
18 May 2019, 10:22

Also, I read somewhere that they want to have 5 planes with the new interior by August. So that would mean they have to accelerate the process a bit and have one of the next months (June or July) two planes done in one month.

I thought they said 5 planes with premium economy installed by August, SFT & SFZ do not get the new interior, but their cabin is somewhat modified with premium economy I thought. So I think they will achieve this goal by August.
OK, but they will not only install premium economy on the others. Five planes by August still means two should be refurbished at the same time, no?

Moreover, the fact that SFT and SFZ will not get a full new interior could be an indication they will also leave the fleet after 2020 ...

Just my 2 cents

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 18 May 2019, 16:16

The flight departed from Frankfurt.

And FR24 shows the aircraft as being this :lol: :

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Post by TLspotting » 22 May 2019, 16:15

OO-SFT arrived at BRU, back from Perpignan.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Darjeeling » 24 May 2019, 12:40

Here are some pics of the "revamped" A330s of Brussels Airlines:

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Cheers ;)

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Post by sn26567 » 24 May 2019, 12:53

Darjeeling wrote:
24 May 2019, 12:40
Here are some pics of the "revamped" A330s of Brussels Airlines:
Great! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 24 May 2019, 22:07

Waiting for the first pic of the Eurowings Belgium plane now :-(

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Post by TLspotting » 24 May 2019, 22:10

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
24 May 2019, 22:07
Waiting for the first pic of the Eurowings Belgium plane now :-(
It arrived earlier today at EMA.
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Poiu » 25 May 2019, 08:05

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
24 May 2019, 22:07
Waiting for the first pic of the Eurowings Belgium plane now :-(
Will you change your nickname into Eurowingsfan? 🤭

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Inquirer » 25 May 2019, 09:51

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
24 May 2019, 22:07
Waiting for the first pic of the Eurowings Belgium plane now :-(
Is there any special paint scheme planned for this particular plane then?
Because I thought there were already several of their planes in the colours of Eurowings flying, notably the Airbus 330?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by CTBke » 25 May 2019, 14:11

Inquirer wrote:
25 May 2019, 09:51
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
24 May 2019, 22:07
Waiting for the first pic of the Eurowings Belgium plane now :-(
Is there any special paint scheme planned for this particular plane then?
Because I thought there were already several of their planes in the colours of Eurowings flying, notably the Airbus 330?
the A330's flying in EW colors are / were for EW ops out of DUS
The A320 OO-SNN is the first of many EW A319/A320 in EW colors with a belgian reg
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 25 May 2019, 15:45

Poiu wrote:
25 May 2019, 08:05
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
24 May 2019, 22:07
Waiting for the first pic of the Eurowings Belgium plane now :-(
Will you change your nickname into Eurowingsfan? 🤭
Not at all... they have killed the belgian flag carrier !

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sounilr21 » 25 May 2019, 17:48

Darjeeling wrote:
24 May 2019, 12:40
Here are some pics of the "revamped" A330s of Brussels Airlines:

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Cheers ;)
Thank you for your sharing. I like this coulours : sobriety and warm coulours.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Passenger » 25 May 2019, 18:56

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
25 May 2019, 15:45
Not at all... they have killed the belgian flag carrier !
At the contrary (and for the zillionth time): Lufthansa has saved Brussels Airlines ten years ago, when the Belgians didn't want to invest in their flag airline / national carrier / whatever you want to call it. Without the support from Lufthansa, Etienne Davignon would have thrown in the towel.

Lufthansa has saved Brussels Airlines and they won't "kill" them today neither: by owning them, Lufthansa controls the leading carrier at Brussels. If they would "kill" Brussels Airlines, like you repeatedly state, someone else will become that main carrier. It may be Eurowings, but that's a risk that Lufthansa won't take.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by travellover » 25 May 2019, 23:23

Passenger wrote:
25 May 2019, 18:56
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
25 May 2019, 15:45
Not at all... they have killed the belgian flag carrier !
At the contrary (and for the zillionth time): Lufthansa has saved Brussels Airlines ten years ago, when the Belgians didn't want to invest in their flag airline / national carrier / whatever you want to call it. Without the support from Lufthansa, Etienne Davignon would have thrown in the towel.

Lufthansa has saved Brussels Airlines and they won't "kill" them today neither: by owning them, Lufthansa controls the leading carrier at Brussels. If they would "kill" Brussels Airlines, like you repeatedly state, someone else will become that main carrier. It may be Eurowings, but that's a risk that Lufthansa won't take.
I agree, yes, and LH is still an added value for SN in 2019.
SN keeps its Belgian AOC, its 4.000 employees, BRU is still their hub, PAX are still coming from the BRU catchment area. Especially AFI pax are double digit % growing year after year, maintening the hope to see new destinations opening in the future (maybe LOS or LBV). And six belgian icons A320 are flying around (seven next year).

A name reform in not yet in sight. No brussels airlines "intercontinental" close by Eurowings.
As another proposal, the name "Belgianwings" could also merge the "family name" Eurowings with the belgian specificity. Knowing that the name "Germanwings" is also used in the LH Group.
Fingers crossed that the EW ugly livery will never become the group standard, and that EW will change it anyway for something more classy.
Cheers

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 26 May 2019, 09:51

travellover wrote:
25 May 2019, 23:23
Passenger wrote:
25 May 2019, 18:56
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
25 May 2019, 15:45
Not at all... they have killed the belgian flag carrier !
At the contrary (and for the zillionth time): Lufthansa has saved Brussels Airlines ten years ago, when the Belgians didn't want to invest in their flag airline / national carrier / whatever you want to call it. Without the support from Lufthansa, Etienne Davignon would have thrown in the towel.

Lufthansa has saved Brussels Airlines and they won't "kill" them today neither: by owning them, Lufthansa controls the leading carrier at Brussels. If they would "kill" Brussels Airlines, like you repeatedly state, someone else will become that main carrier. It may be Eurowings, but that's a risk that Lufthansa won't take.
I agree, yes, and LH is still an added value for SN in 2019.
SN keeps its Belgian AOC, its 4.000 employees, BRU is still their hub, PAX are still coming from the BRU catchment area. Especially AFI pax are double digit % growing year after year, maintening the hope to see new destinations opening in the future (maybe LOS or LBV). And six belgian icons A320 are flying around (seven next year).

A name reform in not yet in sight. No brussels airlines "intercontinental" close by Eurowings.
As another proposal, the name "Belgianwings" could also merge the "family name" Eurowings with the belgian specificity. Knowing that the name "Germanwings" is also used in the LH Group.
Fingers crossed that the EW ugly livery will never become the group standard, and that EW will change it anyway for something more classy.
Dear mates,
OK you got it : LH did not kill SN... I did not use the right words, driven by emotion.
But the facts are : LH erases SN belgian identity and does not invest in the belgian carrier devlpt. Thus, the future of BRU as a hub does not look good!

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