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BRU winter 09-10: latest news, routes, airlines

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Some news about the long haul flights next winter:

American Airlines: New York -> B757-200
Chicago -> B777-200

Delta Airlines: New York -> B757-200
Atlanta -> B767-300

US Airways: Philadelphia -> B757-200

United Airlines: Chicago/Washington -> B777-200

Continental: Newark -> B767-400

Etihad Airways: Abu Dhabi -> A330-200

Note: this all can change.

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It would be very nice to have a new belgian company (low cost, charter, whatever)
especially for my photos. :D

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After the summer Etihad Airways will continue with its 6 flights a week to BRU.

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Eff 25OCT09, easyJet is to increase Brussels-Berlin Schoenefeld from 1 to 2 daily flights.

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Transavia.com is flying back from BRU to Innsbruck and Salzburg.

Innsbruck: starting 18.12 and this 3x a week.
Salzburg: starting 19.12 and this 2x a week.

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EasyJet: Bru-Geneva: three times a day.

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The year-round service of US Airways PHl to BRU, becomes a 'seasonal' service..
Last flight on 23 october! It will be a summer seasonal service only..

What a pitty, but with this economic crisis, It is not a suprise...

Not only BRU, also Malpensa and Zurich

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SabenaForever wrote:The year-round service of US Airways PHl to BRU, becomes a 'seasonal' service..
Last flight on 23 october! It will be a summer seasonal service only..

What a pitty, but with this economic crisis, It is not a suprise...

Not only BRU, also Malpensa and Zurich
Not a surprise, I'd say. They are the smallest of the US carriers operating to BRU and, unlike CO, UA, AA and DL who either have a long time settlement in Brussels or have started ops in economically viable times, they started in 2007 at a time when the crisis (although fairly small in size) was already looming around. Not to mention they don't have the best reputation of the US carriers.

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Conti764 wrote:
SabenaForever wrote:The year-round service of US Airways PHl to BRU, becomes a 'seasonal' service..
Last flight on 23 october! It will be a summer seasonal service only..

What a pitty, but with this economic crisis, It is not a suprise...

Not only BRU, also Malpensa and Zurich
Not a surprise, I'd say. They are the smallest of the US carriers operating to BRU and, unlike CO, UA, AA and DL who either have a long time settlement in Brussels or have started ops in economically viable times, they started in 2007 at a time when the crisis (although fairly small in size) was already looming around. Not to mention they don't have the best reputation of the US carriers.
I think it's still a surprise but I think we will never know the exact reason. If we have a look at the loads, they are very good: always between 90% and 95%.

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Brussels Airlines is going to increase their number of flights to Dakar to a daily flight. Banjul will increase to three flights.

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Atlantis wrote:Brussels Airlines is going to increase their number of flights to Dakar to a daily flight. Banjul will increase to three flights.
Do current aircraft utilization rates permit this? I understand they are quite high already, can they fly another two rotations?

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sdbelgium wrote:
Atlantis wrote:Brussels Airlines is going to increase their number of flights to Dakar to a daily flight. Banjul will increase to three flights.
Do current aircraft utilization rates permit this? I understand they are quite high already, can they fly another two rotations?
Probably they will reduce frequencies to other destinations in Africa.

But that is usually not announced.

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When is the new LCC terminal due to open? Do we know which airlines will operate from it, to where and how often? Do Brussels Airport have any guarantees that easyJet will expand their network from Brussels?

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summersso wrote:When is the new LCC terminal due to open? Do we know which airlines will operate from it, to where and how often? Do Brussels Airport have any guarantees that easyJet will expand their network from Brussels?
The LCT will be open by next winter season, in a couple of months.

It will never be confirmed openly if there will be guarantees. That's part of the file and not for the public.

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Atlantis wrote:
I think it's still a surprise but I think we will never know the exact reason. If we have a look at the loads, they are very good: always between 90% and 95%.
OK, but how where the yields? You can fill a plane and still make a loss.

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Conti764 wrote:
Atlantis wrote:
I think it's still a surprise but I think we will never know the exact reason. If we have a look at the loads, they are very good: always between 90% and 95%.
OK, but how where the yields? You can fill a plane and still make a loss.
I know, that's why I only spoke about the loads. I have no idea about the yields.

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Atlantis wrote:Some news about the long haul flights next winter:

American Airlines: Chicago -> B777-200
Goes back to 767-300 effective 19NOV09.

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summersso wrote:When is the new LCC terminal due to open? Do we know which airlines will operate from it, to where and how often? Do Brussels Airport have any guarantees that easyJet will expand their network from Brussels?
We do not know which airlines will enjoy the LCC, but lets make a list

Atlas Blue
Blue Air
Clickair
Flybe
Easyjet
Myair
skyeurope
vueling
Windjet


On an average day, we will reach maybe 10 outgoing flights??

Some of above airlines will not exist anymore by the end of the year.

Not all of them will/can move to the LCT.


I stick to my prediction: this LCT will be a failure (paid for by PAX and airlines using the expensive part of the airport).

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I'll just add Aer Lingus to your list. But I'm not sure if non-Schengen destinations like "Dublin" will be served? Flybe also exclusively serve non-Schengen destinations, as do Atlas Blue, so I suppose the LCC Terminal will indeed be both Schengen and non-Schengen...?

Atlas Blue
Blue Air
Clickair
Flybe
Easyjet
Myair
skyeurope
vueling
Windjet
Aer Lingus

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by JOVAN » 21 Jun 2009 11:20 am

summersso wrote:
When is the new LCC terminal due to open? Do we know which airlines will operate from it, to where and how often? Do Brussels Airport have any guarantees that easyJet will expand their network from Brussels?


We do not know which airlines will enjoy the LCC, but lets make a list

Atlas Blue
Blue Air
Clickair
Flybe
Easyjet
Myair
skyeurope
vueling
Windjet


On an average day, we will reach maybe 10 outgoing flights??

Some of above airlines will not exist anymore by the end of the year.

Not all of them will/can move to the LCT.


I stick to my prediction: this LCT will be a failure (paid for by PAX and airlines using the expensive part of the airport).
I visited CDG last week and saw Windjet, Easyjet, Flybe, Myair, Air Arabia, Vueling and others. Same for AMS. Why not in BRU ?
If I follow your logic they ought to shut down PAX Ops at LGG as well. Less than 10 PAX flights a day and paid by cargo operations (or is it the Walloon gvnmt?).
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