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BRU Summer 2025: news, new routes, airlines

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Vueling published a temporary schedule for S25 :
Alicante : 9 → 10
Barcelona : 26 → 28
Bilbao : 3 → 2
Malaga : 6
Seville : suspended

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https://simpleflying.com/exclusive-brus ... onnection/

This article, which is based on the recent press conference about the future of the Brussels Airlines fleet, states that the 2nd daily EWR flight by United will be moved to another time in S25 to better accommodate connections to/from Africa.

Also, it mentions that United and Air Canada will not expand in S25 due to aircraft shortages. I'm curious, where could long haul growth come from next year? Which airlines, destinations are worth keeping an eye on?

Thanks!

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Delta downgrades JFK-BRU from daily to 4 weekly in summer '25.
Guess the pressure of SN (jfk) and United (Newark) is too big in New York.

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This could also explain :
Delta Air Lines restarts Atlanta ! From May 2025, 3x weekly.

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BT001 wrote: 15 Sep 2024, 15:58 https://simpleflying.com/exclusive-brus ... onnection/

This article, which is based on the recent press conference about the future of the Brussels Airlines fleet, states that the 2nd daily EWR flight by United will be moved to another time in S25 to better accommodate connections to/from Africa.

Also, it mentions that United and Air Canada will not expand in S25 due to aircraft shortages. I'm curious, where could long haul growth come from next year? Which airlines, destinations are worth keeping an eye on?

Thanks!
There is now a bigger long haul than in 2019. At that time we didn't had Singapore Airlines, Juneyao, second daily of United to Newark, the daily flights of Thai and the new destination of Hainan.

What we need to keep an eye on is the return of Cathay, an increase of flights of Singapore Airlines and maybe Air India or Latam/Azul. ANA is uncertain if they will increase. The demand is low and economy is weak for the moment

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Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 17:09
BT001 wrote: 15 Sep 2024, 15:58 https://simpleflying.com/exclusive-brus ... onnection/

This article, which is based on the recent press conference about the future of the Brussels Airlines fleet, states that the 2nd daily EWR flight by United will be moved to another time in S25 to better accommodate connections to/from Africa.

Also, it mentions that United and Air Canada will not expand in S25 due to aircraft shortages. I'm curious, where could long haul growth come from next year? Which airlines, destinations are worth keeping an eye on?

Thanks!
There is now a bigger long haul than in 2019. At that time we didn't had Singapore Airlines, Juneyao, second daily of United to Newark, the daily flights of Thai and the new destination of Hainan.

What we need to keep an eye on is the return of Cathay, an increase of flights of Singapore Airlines and maybe Air India or Latam/Azul. ANA is uncertain if they will increase. The demand is low and economy is weak for the moment
The airlines you mention, are they rumored or are those only guesses ? For next year ?

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Miqvell wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 17:32
Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 17:09
BT001 wrote: 15 Sep 2024, 15:58 https://simpleflying.com/exclusive-brus ... onnection/

This article, which is based on the recent press conference about the future of the Brussels Airlines fleet, states that the 2nd daily EWR flight by United will be moved to another time in S25 to better accommodate connections to/from Africa.

Also, it mentions that United and Air Canada will not expand in S25 due to aircraft shortages. I'm curious, where could long haul growth come from next year? Which airlines, destinations are worth keeping an eye on?

Thanks!
There is now a bigger long haul than in 2019. At that time we didn't had Singapore Airlines, Juneyao, second daily of United to Newark, the daily flights of Thai and the new destination of Hainan.

What we need to keep an eye on is the return of Cathay, an increase of flights of Singapore Airlines and maybe Air India or Latam/Azul. ANA is uncertain if they will increase. The demand is low and economy is weak for the moment
The airlines you mention, are they rumored or are those only guesses ? For next year ?
It's what they are working on it especially with Cathay and India. The West Coast will for sure not be in 2025 but can be later. More clear will be after the Royal trade missions

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Miqvell wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 15:15 This could also explain :
Delta Air Lines restarts Atlanta ! From May 2025, 3x weekly.
As from 5th June 2025

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Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 19:43
Miqvell wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 15:15 This could also explain :
Delta Air Lines restarts Atlanta ! From May 2025, 3x weekly.
As from 5th June 2025
Same schedules as those of JFK ? If you know ?

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Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 17:49
Miqvell wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 17:32
Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 17:09

There is now a bigger long haul than in 2019. At that time we didn't had Singapore Airlines, Juneyao, second daily of United to Newark, the daily flights of Thai and the new destination of Hainan.

What we need to keep an eye on is the return of Cathay, an increase of flights of Singapore Airlines and maybe Air India or Latam/Azul. ANA is uncertain if they will increase. The demand is low and economy is weak for the moment
The airlines you mention, are they rumored or are those only guesses ? For next year ?
It's what they are working on it especially with Cathay and India. The West Coast will for sure not be in 2025 but can be later. More clear will be after the Royal trade missions
Maybe not entirely ontopic, but when AA starts receiving its A321XLR, PHL-BRU is pretty much a given according to insiders on A.net...

IAH with UA would also be pretty much certain once UA receives enough LH planes, even before the possible westcoast flight.

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Why does Brussels Airlines fly to JFK and not Newark? Flying to Newark could allow for better code sharing arrangements with United no? Same question for the Lufthansa flights...

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Ced wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 11:40 Why does Brussels Airlines fly to JFK and not Newark? Flying to Newark could allow for better code sharing arrangements with United no? Same question for the Lufthansa flights...
It is still a very popular airport for passengers flying to New York as well the catch area is completely different out of NY.
For example from Brooklyn JFK is so much more convenient.
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Conti764 wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 07:56 Maybe not entirely on topic, but when AA starts receiving its A321XLR, PHL-BRU is pretty much a given according to insiders on A.net...
Why would AA come to BRU with only one route to a smaller destination like PHL? In the past, they also flew to BRU from JFK and ORD.
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sn26567 wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:03
Conti764 wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 07:56 Maybe not entirely on topic, but when AA starts receiving its A321XLR, PHL-BRU is pretty much a given according to insiders on A.net...
Why would AA come to BRU with only one route to a smaller destination like PHL? In the past, they also flew to BRU from JFK and ORD.
Because it is one of their hubs, New York is already well covered, it is an important city/catchment area, while Chicago is already covered as well ...

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lumumba wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 12:25
Ced wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 11:40 Why does Brussels Airlines fly to JFK and not Newark? Flying to Newark could allow for better code sharing arrangements with United no? Same question for the Lufthansa flights...
It is still a very popular airport for passengers flying to New York as well the catch area is completely different out of NY.
For example from Brooklyn JFK is so much more convenient.
Better to cover both Newark and JFK. Newark is covering the Eastern part of the NY area, JFK, the Western part. New York is not only about Manhattan.

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DannyVDB wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:34
lumumba wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 12:25
Ced wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 11:40 Why does Brussels Airlines fly to JFK and not Newark? Flying to Newark could allow for better code sharing arrangements with United no? Same question for the Lufthansa flights...
It is still a very popular airport for passengers flying to New York as well the catch area is completely different out of NY.
For example from Brooklyn JFK is so much more convenient.
Better to cover both Newark and JFK. Newark is covering the Eastern part of the NY area, JFK, the Western part. New York is not only about Manhattan.
It's the other way around ;)

JFK acts as a feeder into SN's Africa ops, while EWR is UA's primary eastcoast hub. Anyways, all revenue is going into the A++ bucket.

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sn26567 wrote: 22 Sep 2024, 00:03
Conti764 wrote: 21 Sep 2024, 07:56 Maybe not entirely on topic, but when AA starts receiving its A321XLR, PHL-BRU is pretty much a given according to insiders on A.net...
Why would AA come to BRU with only one route to a smaller destination like PHL? In the past, they also flew to BRU from JFK and ORD.
PHL is AA's primary North Eastern American hub.

They served JFK and ORD during the heydays of the codesharing with SN, two markets now pretty well covered by United and A++.

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nordikcam wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 19:51
Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 19:43
Miqvell wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 15:15 This could also explain :
Delta Air Lines restarts Atlanta ! From May 2025, 3x weekly.
As from 5th June 2025
Same schedules as those of JFK ? If you know ?
Indeed the same schedule. JFK 4 times, ATL 3 times and land at 08:45 for JFK and 08:40 for the ATL flight

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22 Sep 2024 12:38 pm

sn26567 wrote: ↑
Conti764 wrote: ↑
Maybe not entirely on topic, but when AA starts receiving its A321XLR, PHL-BRU is pretty much a given according to insiders on A.net...
Why would AA come to BRU with only one route to a smaller destination like PHL? In the past, they also flew to BRU from JFK and ORD.
PHL is AA's primary North Eastern American hub.

They served JFK and ORD during the heydays of the codesharing with SN, two markets now pretty well covered by United and A++.
Indeed, why not?
US Airways started PHL-BRU back in 2001, after the merger with American Airlines, AA continued the route with B757 under the same flight numbers (750/751).
An A321XLR could work very well.
Besides that, I believe that MUC only has 1 AA flight as well (CLT), FRA only has 2 (DFW & CLT), AMS 2 as well (DFW & PHL).

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Atlantis wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 19:43
Miqvell wrote: 20 Sep 2024, 15:15 This could also explain :
Delta Air Lines restarts Atlanta ! From May 2025, 3x weekly.
As from 5th June 2025
Atlanta, a big city but not mega, has the biggest airport in the world in PAX numbers. It makes the city and the state og Georgia an economic powerhouse
Atlanta is the center of conventions, trade fairs and other events.
Imagine that Brussels and BRU would have a similar ambition. Just imagine.

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