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Pakistan International Airlines Airbus A320 crashes near Karachi

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A PIA A320 has crashed in Pakistan. The aircraft had 99 people on board. The accident happened near Karachi, coming from Lahore. The aircraft already made a go-around.
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lucas wrote:
22 May 2020, 12:42
A PIA A320 has crashed in Pakistan. The aircraft had 107 people on board. The accident happened near Karachi, coming from Lahore. The aircraft already made a go-around.
Indeed, latest information can be found here: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/airb ... -pakistan/

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Prayers to all victims and their relatives.

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BEA investigators with technical advisors from Airbus & Safran Engines are on their way to Pakistan and will be on-site May 26, 2020.
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They are travelling to Pakistan in the prototype A330-800, by the way.

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CVR not found, FDR found, says BEA on Twitter.
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Some media do say that the CVR also has been found. The source mentioned below, states that PIA said that both devices have been found. Who is correct, PIA or DEA?

https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/fli ... 15.article

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Latest news is they found the housing, but not the data module of it. Would explain some of the contradicting information.

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sdbelgium wrote:
26 May 2020, 22:41
Latest news is they found the housing, but not the data module of it. Would explain some of the contradicting information.
Okay, thanks for clarification! Any idea on why the housing and the data module would be separated? It would be by the huge impact I presume?

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CVR has been found by AAIB team of Pakistan. BEA has received a request from Pakistan to handle FDR & CVR repair and data download operations at a later date (in France). (Communication done after mutual concurrence)
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F-WTTO, A330-800, has again left TLS this evening, heading for KHI .
They will pick up the BEA insectors and fly them back with the black boxes.
Crew not allowed to leave the aircraft in KHI so it should be a short turnaround before flying back normally to LFPB this time. They should arrive 01JUN in the late afternoon I guess.

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Homo Aeroportus wrote:
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F-WTTO, A330-800, has again left TLS this evening, heading for KHI .
They will pick up the BEA inspectors and fly them back with the black boxes.
Crew not allowed to leave the aircraft in KHI so it should be a short turnaround before flying back normally to LFPB this time. They should arrive 01JUN in the late afternoon I guess.
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Pilot, air traffic controller held responsible for PK-8303 crash: sources

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According to the report, the pilot of the PK-8303 did not follow the procedure and he was overconfident.



The air traffic controller is equally responsible for the incident as he did not asked the pilot to make landing instead of taking off when the engine hit the runway, the report said according to sources.

The report has been prepared with the cockpit voice recorder data, planes debris and other evidence collected from the crashed site by the probe team.

Aircraft Accident and Investigation Board (AAIB) led by Air Commodore Muhammad Usman Ghani has presented the preliminary report on the PK-8303 crash to Federal Aviation Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan.

It must be noted that Prime Minister Imran Khan had asked the federal minister for aviation, Ghulam Sarwar Khan to produce the investigative report by Monday.

Ghulam Sarwar Khan had assured the prime minister of bringing forth the preliminary report and will present it to Imran Khan tomorrow, sources privy to the development claimed.

Read More: PIA announces to pay six-month rent, rebuild houses damaged in plane crash

The Air Accident and Investigation Board (AAIB) commenced technical probe of the ill-fated aircraft PK-8303 plane’s debris collected more evidence regarding the crash on June 19.

Earlier on June 2, the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) had pointed out in a report regarding ‘violations’ made by pilot of ill-fated PK-8303 aircraft of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) which was crashed last month.

The Civil Aviation Authority’s Additional Director Operation had sent a letter to the safety department of the national flag-carrier, Pakistan International Airlines (PIA). The copy of the letter was also obtained by ARY News which stated that the pilot of the Airbus 320 aircraft did not follow the instruction of the air traffic controller (ATC).

The report was followed by the written response of air traffic controller (ATC) and approach tower controllers which had been submitted to the investigation board on May 26 during the probe of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) plane, PK-8303, crash incident.
Read More: PK-8303 crash: AAIB commences technical probe of plane’s debris

The captain had asked the ATC that he will adjust its altitude and speed before landing, however, he landed the plane without opening landing gear during the first attempt. The ATC added that both engines of the aircraft were badly damaged after hitting the ground as the plane landed without opening landing gear.

It seems that the captain forgot to open the landing gear while maintaining speed and altitude of the aircraft, said the air traffic controller.

On May 22, flight PK-8303 crashed in Model Colony near the Jinnah International Airport in Karachi, killing 97 people while two miraculously survived.

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aviatellc wrote:
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According to the report, the pilot of the PK-8303 did not follow the procedure and he was overconfident.

...
What report?

Thanks.

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OO-JFP wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 19:21
This one I guess...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiat ... 2020-06-22

Interesting pictures:
https://twitter.com/historyofpia1

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"Report" from India Today. :lol:

Hopefully something more formal in La Gazette de la Meuse tomorrow.

A preliminary report was to be produced yesterday 22JUN but I failed to find anything other than second hand "info" blown by a favourable wind.
Not that I expect the preliminary report requested by ICAO within 30 days to include much details though.

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Pakistan authorities have indeed published a preliminary report:
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European Union Air Safety Agency (EASA) has temporarily suspended PIA’s authorisation to operate to the EU member states for a period of 6 months effective July 1, 2020, with the right to appeal against this decision.
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