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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Acid-drop » 14 Dec 2019, 10:54

In the mean time, only 20% of passengers think its a safe plane and I'm not in it.
So those optimistic airlines will need to push it down the throat of their client... great for their image.
If the american administration wasnt defending Boeing like their crown jewel, the story would already be over a long time ago. Take your loss and move forward.
My messages reflect my personal opinion which may be different than yours. I beleive a forum is made to create a debate so I encourage people to express themselves, the way they want, with the ideas they want. I expect the same understanding in return.

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by sn26567 » 14 Dec 2019, 21:29

Acid-drop wrote:
14 Dec 2019, 10:54
If the American administration wasn't defending Boeing like their crown jewel, the story would already be over a long time ago.
It seems on the contrary that the FAA will keep the 737MAX grounded until it has thoroughly tested the aircraft itself and has all the guarantees that the plane is safe.
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by 737MAX » 14 Dec 2019, 22:11

Acid-drop wrote:
14 Dec 2019, 10:54
In the mean time, only 20% of passengers think its a safe plane and I'm not in it.
So those optimistic airlines will need to push it down the throat of their client... great for their image.
If the american administration wasnt defending Boeing like their crown jewel, the story would already be over a long time ago. Take your loss and move forward.
Could you tell us why you are part of those 20%?
And what you would do if you were the owner/operator of B737 MAX planes?
What do you actually mean by "take your loss and move forward"?

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by ostair » 14 Dec 2019, 23:30

Instead of raising import taxes , the current president of the USA should get his act together and try to fix the 737-MAX problem with Boeing.
Any normal airline will go to Airbus instead to order some planes.
Or would even look at Russia or China...

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Acid-drop » 15 Dec 2019, 16:26

Im not part of those 20%.
Who on this forum is ?

It clearly takes more than a few tricks to fix a badly designed plane. My opinion is that they should stop trying. Taking their loss.
Lets see what airlines do... if they wanna push it down the throat of their client of not...
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by 737MAX » 16 Dec 2019, 12:37

Acid-drop wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 16:26
Im not part of those 20%.
Who on this forum is ?

It clearly takes more than a few tricks to fix a badly designed plane. My opinion is that they should stop trying. Taking their loss.
Lets see what airlines do... if they wanna push it down the throat of their client of not...
I asked you 3 questions. Not to post the same comment again without any answer to these 3 questions.
Since you seem to be unable to answer these questions, let's try those:

What makes you say it "clearly takes more than a few tricks to fix a badly designed plane"? More than a few tricks? :?

Have you flown in the 737-200 or classic? Ever heard of rudder issues?

Whether you like it or not, you'll be safer in a 737 MAX than in your car.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 16 Dec 2019, 13:02

Have you flown in the 737-200 or classic?
With all respect and sympathy for your obvious annoyance, but what difference would it make whether one has or hasn't ever been seated somewhere back in the tube?

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Post by sean1982 » 16 Dec 2019, 13:56

jan_olieslagers wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 13:02
Have you flown in the 737-200 or classic?
With all respect and sympathy for your obvious annoyance, but what difference would it make whether one has or hasn't ever been seated somewhere back in the tube?
That they also at a certajn point were grounded due to a series of crashes related to rudder issues, yet nobody now would hesitate to board one of these types.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 16 Dec 2019, 14:01

And what does that say about actually having sat in one?

Also, I for one WOULD hesitate to enter one - but then, I must admit I am not in a hurry to enter any airliner as a passenger. There are better ways to enjoy aviation, for me at least.

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Poiu » 16 Dec 2019, 14:05

Acid-drop wrote:
14 Dec 2019, 10:54
In the mean time, only 20% of passengers think its a safe plane and I'm not in it.
So those optimistic airlines will need to push it down the throat of their client... great for their image.
And the other 80% don’t have a clue which aircraft they are flying in.
A conversation which made me laugh last week whilst boarding an A350.
Pax: Is this a max miss?
Purser: no sir it’s an A350.
Pax: yes, I know they already told me at check in, but is it a Max or not?
Purser: No sir it’s not a Max.
Pax: pfff they are putting us in an old aircraft again...

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Post by sn26567 » 16 Dec 2019, 14:44

Boeing Board could decide to halve or even to stop the production of the 737 MAX as FAA keeps delaying its green light for re-authorising flights. There are about 500 recently built planes that could not be delivered to their customers and 300 more grounded by their customers.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... _inset_1.1
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 17 Dec 2019, 00:12

According to the Wall Street Journal, Boeing will suspend production of 737 as from January.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-to- ... 1576532032

Either they are really unable to store another 40 airframes a month, after having already done so for +400 examples, or this is a way to put pressure on FAA to (re)certify asap ..??

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Post by TLspotting » 17 Dec 2019, 10:16

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 00:12
According to the Wall Street Journal, Boeing will suspend production of 737 as from January.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-to- ... 1576532032

Either they are really unable to store another 40 airframes a month, after having already done so for +400 examples, or this is a way to put pressure on FAA to (re)certify asap ..??

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by 737MAX » 17 Dec 2019, 11:04

jan_olieslagers wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 14:01
And what does that say about actually having sat in one?

Also, I for one WOULD hesitate to enter one - but then, I must admit I am not in a hurry to enter any airliner as a passenger. There are better ways to enjoy aviation, for me at least.
Acid-drop doesn’t want to sit in a MAX. But why would he feel safe in a classic, then? What’s the difference? (And yes, I mentioned the classic for the reason Sean1982 correctly gave).

All I mean by this is simply that he doesn’t know why he doesn’t want to sit in a MAX. You are smarter, you ask yourself the question, or you would hesitate. Which is something I absolutely respect.

Am I annoyed? Frankly said, yes, as always when people post ridiculous things. And I’ve to say acid-drop’s post makes it to the top of the most ridiculous posts I have seen here.

I’m still waiting for his answers to my questions, but I’m afraid he will not be able to answer anything - and that’s the whole point of this message. Don’t post if you are unable to develop your opinion.

He thinks Boeing needs to make numerous fixes on the 737 MAX - completely wrong. It doesn’t take much time to find what kind of fix Boeing has proposed to the authorities.

He thinks 20% of the public would step in a MAX - still waiting for the source, but in any case -> completely wrong (poiu explained why, and we hear similar stories every single day).

I still don’t know what he means by « take your loss and move forward ». Does that mean « hey Boeing, destroy the MAX and make something new »? Is he serious?

Still waiting for his proposals for 737 MAX operators who « will push the MAX to the throat of their clients »...

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by 737MAX » 17 Dec 2019, 11:06

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 00:12
or this is a way to put pressure on FAA to (re)certify asap ..??

H.A.
I don’t think so. The FAA cannot be that wrong twice.

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Post by sn26567 » 17 Dec 2019, 15:00

The largest MAX user Southwest Airlines pulls Boeing 737 MAX jets from schedule through April 13 (2020 that is).

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/sout ... pril-2020/
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Post by TLspotting » 17 Dec 2019, 16:23

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by 737MAX » 17 Dec 2019, 17:10

BREAKING! June 2020 for Chihuahua airlines.

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Airbus330lover » 17 Dec 2019, 17:20

737MAX wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 11:04
jan_olieslagers wrote:
16 Dec 2019, 14:01
And what does that say about actually having sat in one?

Also, I for one WOULD hesitate to enter one - but then, I must admit I am not in a hurry to enter any airliner as a passenger. There are better ways to enjoy aviation, for me at least.
Acid-drop doesn’t want to sit in a MAX. But why would he feel safe in a classic, then? What’s the difference? (And yes, I mentioned the classic for the reason Sean1982 correctly gave).

...
Very simple. When the aerodynamics is so modified... to a need of a electronic system to compensate.... it's not the same plane. Nor Acid-drop, nor me is such a bad designed aircraft

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Poiu » 17 Dec 2019, 17:54

Airbus330lover wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 17:20

Very simple. When the aerodynamics is so modified... to a need of a electronic system to compensate.... it's not the same plane. Nor Acid-drop, nor me is such a bad designed aircraft
ALL modern civilian and military jets have electronic systems to compensate the complex aerodynamics...
You and Acid better start travelling by train, car, bicycle,...

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