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OO-VLS = "Pagadder": .

More tweets:
https://twitter.com/airantwerp

Pagadder:
http://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/definit ... m/pagadder

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Passenger wrote:
05 Nov 2019, 10:23
OO-VLS = "Pagadder": .

More tweets:
https://twitter.com/airantwerp

Pagadder:
http://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/definit ... m/pagadder
Why not? But, personally, I think "Brabo" would have been a better fit.

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The name "Pagadder" doesn't mean anything to anyone who is not from Antwerp. International recognition? Come on, you can do better.

Furthermore, several weeks to get a certification for a sticker? Is that a joke?
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For me this name is the first word in my vocabulary of Antwerp dialect, but I agree that is does not at all reflect international aspirations of a new airline.

And if the name is going to last, why not have it decently painted instead of a sticker?

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As mentioned on facebook: according to https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... report.pdf Air Antwerp has been granted 44 weekly slots at London City Airport LCY: 12 more compared to the 32 current flights (5 days x 6 + 1 round-trip on Sunday). This means they can do 6 flights more each week.

That's for Summer 2020, is it already time for a new thread "Air Antwerp in 2020"?

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Why is TUI mentioned on that Airline/LCY list?
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sn26567 wrote:
05 Nov 2019, 12:19
Furthermore, several weeks to get a certification for a sticker? Is that a joke?
If you don't know what is involved, don't make such a ridiculous statement. :roll:

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DeltaWiskey wrote:
10 Nov 2019, 22:56
sn26567 wrote:
05 Nov 2019, 12:19
Furthermore, several weeks to get a certification for a sticker? Is that a joke?
If you don't know what is involved, don't make such a ridiculous statement. :roll:
Then please tell us what is involved, so that all our readers can benefit from your experience.
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Putting stickers on a plane is not a simple process, as some of you think.

1. Material: the stickers used cannot be bought in a standard shop like Carrefour. A technical drawing describing every detail has to be made, the stickers may not be applied to any component that gets warm during the flight or on any moving part that would require ground engineers to perform more maintenance. The stickers can’t just fall off after one or two flights. For that reason, the materials are tested in temperatures ranging from -50° C. to 110° C.

2. Application: The sticker is divided into layers. Each layer is applied using a squeegee, pressing from the inside out. If a bubble appears, it needs to be popped with a needle. Also, an extra layer varnish is sprayed all around the edges because the application tape is only 65 micrometres thick. The entire process requires a couple of hours.

So, when AA said they need a few weeks, it is very understandable. I guess they will give the name ’Pagadder’ a special design, then they need to be ordered following the specs mentioned earlier, and then the plane has to be standing still for a couple of hours to get the stickers applied in a closed hangar (during the week there is hardly any time because of 3 rotations to LCY).

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PttU wrote:
10 Nov 2019, 17:22
As mentioned on facebook: according to https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... report.pdf Air Antwerp has been granted 44 weekly slots at London City Airport LCY: 12 more compared to the 32 current flights (5 days x 6 + 1 round-trip on Sunday). This means they can do 6 flights more each week.

That's for Summer 2020, is it already time for a new thread "Air Antwerp in 2020"?
as OST insist to have their connection with UK, it could be possible that the second ANR flight becomes a
ANR LCY OST LCY ANR.

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On tuesdays i can book only 2 flights
but on sundays i can't find the second flight

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the second flight at 14.15 on sundays is bookable now

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They could not offer traffic figures? From a reliable source, I got an average figure of 28 passengers per flight, average since the start of operations. That's a load factor of 56%, but given the relatively high fares, that could be close to breakeven.
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It doesn't appear yet on the Air Antwerp website, but according to codeshare partner KLM's booking site, the midday flights are scrapped from early January and the number of weekly flights reduced from 16 to 11.

The midday flight on Tuesdays was already scrapped, but now they are also cancelled on the other days of the week.

The Sunday midday flight, which is introduced today for the first time, will thus already be scrapped in two weeks. Very short-lived!

As usual, airlines are prone to announce new routes and flights, but very reluctant to announce scrapped flights...

Thanks to Raphael Cockx for the information.
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sn26567 wrote:
22 Dec 2019, 11:44
It doesn't appear yet on the Air Antwerp website, but according to codeshare partner KLM's booking site, the midday flights are scrapped from early January and the number of weekly flights reduced from 16 to 11.

The midday flight on Tuesdays was already scrapped, but now they are also cancelled on the other days of the week.

The Sunday midday flight, which is introduced today for the first time, will thus already be scrapped in two weeks. Very short-lived!

As usual, airlines are prone to announce new routes and flights, but very reluctant to announce scrapped flights...

Thanks to Raphael Cockx for the information.
Yves Panneels, spokesman for Air Antwerp, denies that any flights will be cancelled after January. Service is reduced during the Christmas holidays, but resumes normally in January.

He will check with KLM why those midday flights aren't mentioned on the KLM booking site.
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People should check information before making (cynic) announcements. If you look at the KLM website, all flights are back to normal as from 1st Feb (3 times daily and 2 on Sun). Those who know ANR operations, would remember that January is always a very slow month on this route because of holiday season. VLM used to cancel also rotations in Jan, after which normal schedule was restored. Loading factor on ANR-LCY is quite ok. Also other airlines reduce capacity (I was personally moved on the next BA flight after they decided to cancel 1 rotation to BRU in the winter schedule). I am only worried that potential passengers (who may also read Aviation forums) are scared of by this kind if fake news.

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In the meantime Air Antwerp already reacted on another website as follows:

”This article (aviation24.be) is inaccurate. There are some cutbacks in the Xmas and New Year’s period, but from January onwards all flights at noon will be operated daily with the exception of Tuesdays and Saturdays. Total number of rotations remains at 16”

Would appreciate if ‘aviation24.be’ would correct their article or remove it, before the newspapers pick it up.

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