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If XL airways is really going bankrupt, there will be 4 A332 with Trent engines on the market maybe one or two for Brussels Airlines?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Post by sn26567 » 18 Aug 2019, 13:26

Jetter wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2019, 13:09

JOVAN wrote: ↑
18 Aug 2019, 12:54
If SN wants to grow and become a network airline, you would imagine they would work on and develop further their existing destinations.

First they need smaller planes (Embraer/A220). The A319 is too big to fly multiple daily to destinations as Bristol.

That's why Bristol, Hannover, Billund, Nantes, Bordeaux, etc. are subcontracted to CityJet and its CRJ-900s.
On French Aviation forum, some people are saying, that SN will end its double daily service to Nantes, from 23 November 2019, anyone can confirm ? Thanks

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rwandan-flyer wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 09:52

On French Aviation forum, some people are saying, that SN will end its double daily service to Nantes, from 23 November 2019, anyone can confirm ? Thanks
I cannot confirm, but I always thought a CRJ900 is too big for Nantes, and since there no more a subcontractors like flybmi with smaller planes...
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In deed i have just seen archives, on French Forum, the Nantes Brussels service opened in 2016 and was first of all operated by a FlyBmi ERJ145. You can see also some FlyBe (SN livery) Q400 and CityJet (SN livery) SSJ pics at Nantes, on JP.Net

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sn26567 wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 10:33
rwandan-flyer wrote:
20 Sep 2019, 09:52

On French Aviation forum, some people are saying, that SN will end its double daily service to Nantes, from 23 November 2019, anyone can confirm ? Thanks
I cannot confirm, but I always thought a CRJ900 is too big for Nantes, and since there no more a subcontractors like flybmi with smaller planes...
I'm afraid it's true :roll:
Screenshot_2019-09-20 Select flight Brussels Airlines.png
No more reservation bookable on brussels airlines website after 23/11/2019.
The same on : www.google.com/flights
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Brussels Airlines made the last flight on the route Kiev – Brussels and will stop flying to Ukraine due to optimisations of its network.
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No reaction, explanation in a press release, press conference, no communication to employees from CF about SN's recent ongoing problems with the long haul fleet ? «Silence radio» ? Sabena/SR scenario ? «Chronique d'une mort annoncée».

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Ansett wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 00:37
No reaction, explanation in a press release, press conference, no communication to employees from CF about SN's recent ongoing problems with the long haul fleet ? «Silence radio» ? Sabena/SR scenario ? «Chronique d'une mort annoncée».
Recent ? Current !!!! Cotonou Abidjan arrival flight canceled today ! And a forumer wondered why there were about more or less sixty empty seats on African flights. I have a track start!

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Since Brussels Airlines was acquired by Lufthansa Group, there's never been so much problems !! There are a lot of problems : lack of new aircrafts, poor management in scheduling of aircraft....
At this moment it's the only airline in the group to be so bad and Lufthansa has to laugh about it and worry about it !!

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nordikcam wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 08:57
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Recent ? Current !!!! Cotonou Abidjan arrival flight canceled today ! ...
Well this one is the direct consequence of not operating the outbound flight yesterday.

As I wrote :

Latest news from the hospital :
SN299 to ABJ was to be operated by OO-SFF today.
Early this morning, the flight departure time was postponed to 14:00, then 14:30.
At 11:30, SFF was replaced by SFG. Half an hour later, the flight was cancelled.


Today Golf still doesn't feel fit to operate SN277 to Accra and will stay in bed.
She is to run ABJ again tomorrow 22SEP.

Besides the trouble for the passengers, I feel especially for the gals and boys in Ops, Mx, and those facing customers to have to live this so often.
"OK, drop Golf we won't fix it in time. Let's focus on Foxtrot to send her; Ops has pushed the STD by two hours".
Ladies and gentlemen, we are sorry to announce that the flight to xyz is further delayed by 2 hours. The new gate is A67....

Longhaul is where SN makes money, right?

H.A.

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It seems the problems with the A333's are mostly happening with OO-SFE, -SFF and SFG, so the newer and most recently introduced ex-SQ or ex-CX aircraft.
Is this a coincidence?
I thought the newer aircraft would reduce the operational difficulties...
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I am very curious about the plan LH has for SN... Will the airline finally be treated like a family member or still like an unwanted child?

They have ordered up to 40 new B787/A350 for everyone

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... except SN.

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Boavida wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 13:12
I am very curious about the plan LH has for SN... Will the airline finally be treated like a family member or still like an unwanted child?

They have ordered up to 40 new B787/A350 for everyone

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... except SN.
Yes bcs remember the last statement of SN that they are responsible on their own regarding the new fleet and the finance of it. So don't expect that LH will order sth for SN. SN is alone. High time to understand this

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Atlantis wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 13:36
SN is alone. High time to understand this
Understood... and so SN dies slowly ... very slowly. LH's clear and real will.
We just spoke about Hospital ...How long is the agony? 5 years ?

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I don't understand why Lufthansa bought Brussels Airlines if there is no investment or interest in the end ?!! It's a shame, i see a desire of germans to drop the company step by step....

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They wanted/bought SN for their ridiculous Eurowings project. Now that has failed they don't have a clue what to do with it.

Maybe they should just sell it to a company that is genuinely interested in BRU's home carrier. IAG? AF-KL?

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Boavida wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 16:38
They wanted/bought SN for their ridiculous Eurowings project. Now that has failed they don't have a clue what to do with it.

Maybe they should just sell it to a company that is genuinely interested in BRU's home carrier. IAG? AF-KL?
They bought SN even before there was any Eurowings low-cost project. The aim was to prevent another alliance to set foot in Brussels. AF/KL was not really interested, but for IAG, BRU looked like an exceptional opportunity. By purchasing SN, LH preempted IAG's ambitions.
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And now Lufthansa shows no interest in SN ...is there concrete and positive plans for the future? Why SN is not allowed to have new aircrafts? Only second hand Airbus A330 and old 319/320 it's a joke for a national airline in Europe !!

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VoloperTe wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 17:34
And now Lufthansa shows no interest in SN ...is there concrete and positive plans for the future? Why SN is not allowed to have new aircrafts? Only second hand Airbus A330 and old 319/320 it's a joke for a national airline in Europe !!
The "Reboot" plan aims at making the airline more profitable, so it can afford new aircraft. Give it some time!
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a national airline
Forget about "national airlines" aka "flag carriers". That's a concept from the 20th century - today's world works differently.

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