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Re: BRU Summer 2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Conti764 » 27 Aug 2019, 22:42

Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 21:12
SabenaForever wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 19:59
From Summer 2020 United will introduce the 787 on international routes from ORD replacing the 777. It seems BRU, FRA and MUC are becoming the first routes. Still routes not yet confirmed.
Hoping for the B787-10 which would make two of them daily with UA
Anything but the -10 would mean a downscaling in seats (252 iso 266)... Not that much of a difference though.

Why is UA sending these very capable birds transatlantic from the eastern US? Don't they serve a better purpose transatlantic from the westcoast or transpacific?

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Post by Atlantis » 27 Aug 2019, 22:55

Conti764 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 22:42
Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 21:12
SabenaForever wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 19:59
From Summer 2020 United will introduce the 787 on international routes from ORD replacing the 777. It seems BRU, FRA and MUC are becoming the first routes. Still routes not yet confirmed.
Hoping for the B787-10 which would make two of them daily with UA
Anything but the -10 would mean a downscaling in seats (252 iso 266)... Not that much of a difference though.

Why is UA sending these very capable birds transatlantic from the eastern US? Don't they serve a better purpose transatlantic from the westcoast or transpacific?
Each replacement of the 777 by a 787 is a downscale
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Post by brabel » 27 Aug 2019, 23:12

Flightlevel.be says that perhaps united might open San Francisco - Brussels route

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Post by Conti764 » 27 Aug 2019, 23:36

Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 22:55
Conti764 wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 22:42
Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 21:12


Hoping for the B787-10 which would make two of them daily with UA
Anything but the -10 would mean a downscaling in seats (252 iso 266)... Not that much of a difference though.

Why is UA sending these very capable birds transatlantic from the eastern US? Don't they serve a better purpose transatlantic from the westcoast or transpacific?
Each replacement off the 777 by a 787 is a downscale
The 787-10 is an upscaling to the B772. 316 vs 266...

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Post by Atlantis » 28 Aug 2019, 07:23

I don't remember out of my head if they are flying with 772 or 773 to BRU

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Post by SabenaForever » 28 Aug 2019, 09:40

Atlantis wrote:
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I don't remember out of my head if they are flying with 772 or 773 to BRU
772 ;)

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Post by sn26567 » 28 Aug 2019, 10:06

brabel wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 23:12
Flightlevel.be says that perhaps united might open San Francisco - Brussels route
@Atlantis, what's your opinion? Is this route in the cards for BRU?
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Post by sn26567 » 28 Aug 2019, 10:45

Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 21:12
SabenaForever wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 19:59
From Summer 2020 United will introduce the 787 on international routes from ORD replacing the 777. It seems BRU, FRA and MUC are becoming the first routes. Still routes not yet confirmed.
Hoping for the B787-10 which would make two of them daily with UA
It will be either a 787-10 or a retrofit 787-9: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/unit ... nd-munich/
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Post by Atlantis » 28 Aug 2019, 10:53

sn26567 wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 10:06
brabel wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 23:12
Flightlevel.be says that perhaps united might open San Francisco - Brussels route
@Atlantis, what's your opinion? Is this route in the cards for BRU?
Hi Andre,

Yes, like I mentioned already in the topic: BRU:Star, One world and Skyteam under one roof. There I mentioned the route from San-Francisco

I mentioned also before that some will announce the new routes and open the bookings since the beginning of the Winter season, so new flights as from Summer 2020.

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Post by DannyVDB » 28 Aug 2019, 12:58

That would be great ...

Have to go to the SF area next year, so will be candidate to fly their (renewed) business class ... :D

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Post by sn26567 » 28 Aug 2019, 14:00

Atlantis wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 10:53
sn26567 wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 10:06
brabel wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 23:12
Flightlevel.be says that perhaps united might open San Francisco - Brussels route
@Atlantis, what's your opinion? Is this route in the cards for BRU?
Hi Andre,

Yes, like I mentioned already in the topic: BRU:Star, One world and Skyteam under one roof. There I mentioned the route from San-Francisco.
I remember you mentioned San Francisco (and Los Angeles), but you also wrote that United's focus was on Houston. Which one will come first?
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Post by Atlantis » 28 Aug 2019, 14:26

sn26567 wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 14:00
Atlantis wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 10:53
sn26567 wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 10:06


@Atlantis, what's your opinion? Is this route in the cards for BRU?
Hi Andre,

Yes, like I mentioned already in the topic: BRU:Star, One world and Skyteam under one roof. There I mentioned the route from San-Francisco.
I remember you mentioned San Francisco (and Los Angeles), but you also wrote that United's focus was on Houston. Which one will come first?
San Francisco as first and Houston as second. New York was normally second but with using the bigger 787-10 it was not longer high priority as this second flight was going to be with smaller equipment.
Houston still not confirmed yet, but yeah, San Francisco was also very long on the waiting list.

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Post by 737MAX » 28 Aug 2019, 17:34

Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 22:55


Each replacement of the 777 by a 787 is a downscale
A downscale...?!!!
Brand new & quiet planes, more seats, I really don't see any downscale here. But yes, the engines are smaller on the 787.

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Post by Conti764 » 28 Aug 2019, 17:44

737MAX wrote:
28 Aug 2019, 17:34
Atlantis wrote:
27 Aug 2019, 22:55


Each replacement of the 777 by a 787 is a downscale
A downscale...?!!!
Brand new & quiet planes, more seats, I really don't see any downscale here. But yes, the engines are smaller on the 787.
A downscale in seats in certain cases... A 787 is always a downscaling in seats compared to a 773.

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Post by theeuropean » 28 Aug 2019, 18:01

It depends also on how you view it. If UA like DL are putting their brand new business class seats on the BRU routes it means that there is a strong healthy demand up front which is always good (take note LH). The downgrade can also make sense if they will start the SFO flight - which can mean less connecting passengers on their other US flights to BRU.

For SN, from the grapevine (so take it with a pinch of salt) I've heard they are looking at resuming another longhaul flight with a new tag on - but lets see. It's also SN and LH seems to be all over the place on what to do so let's see.

If it is routes that was mentioned previously then there should be at least 2 new ones coming online.

A3 seems to schedule its morning ATH service 50 mins earlier for the summer. All with new A320 neo's.

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Post by KriVa » 29 Aug 2019, 08:37

As far as I can tell, the B77W is hardly ever used by UAL at Brussels. Most of the time, I’d say over 99% of flights, is performed by the B772 whenever a B777 is used.
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Post by HQ_BRU_Lover » 29 Aug 2019, 10:56

KriVa wrote:
29 Aug 2019, 08:37
As far as I can tell, the B77W is hardly ever used by UAL at Brussels. Most of the time, I’d say over 99% of flights, is performed by the B772 whenever a B777 is used.
Indeed, I think we only saw the 77W once or twice since it entered service at UA.

Delighted to hear about SFO-BRU-SFO, let's hope it gets announced soon.

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Post by sounilr21 » 30 Aug 2019, 11:21

According with flightlevel, United's flight BRU-ORD will be operate by a 787-10 from april 2020.
Opening BRU-SFO by United is next step ?

Brussels will be a UA "european mini-hub" for 787 ?

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Post by Atlantis » 30 Aug 2019, 12:16

sounilr21 wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 11:21
According with flightlevel, United's flight BRU-ORD will be operate by a 787-10 from april 2020.
Opening BRU-SFO by United is next step ?

Brussels will be a UA "european mini-hub" for 787 ?
For UA, BRU is a real hub, not a mini-hub as something like this is not existing.
By next year an other new flight should be added, SFO.

Like for many years that BRU was an A330 airport, it will be more a B787 airport as this type of aircraft is very well suited for such ops to BRU

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Post by sn26567 » 30 Aug 2019, 13:57

sounilr21 wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 11:21
According to flightlevel, United's flight BRU-ORD will be operated by a 787-10 from April 2020.
... and according to Aviation24.be, it will be operated by either a 787-10 or a refurbished 787-9: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/unit ... nd-munich/

But it will indeed be a 787!
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