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Ansett
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Ansett » 03 Jul 2019, 18:16

If SN is now re-integrating the Network-Airlines, why would they apply a very different on board catering practice than their three "brothers" or "sisters" ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 03 Jul 2019, 18:22

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 09:15
OO-SFL is on her "once-in-a-month" charity flight, same as on 03JUN.

She left EBBR this morning as BEL9903 to position for the EW1112 DUS-EWR with STD 11:35LT.

;)

H.A.
OO-SFL left DUS with a delay of five (5) hours, heading for EWR.
They probably took the time to double check the paperwork was OK, hopefully not repeating the RTB of BEL515 last week.
:mrgreen:

H.A.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by CTBke » 03 Jul 2019, 18:27

Ansett wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 18:16
If SN is now re-integrating the Network-Airlines, why would they apply a very different on board catering practice than their three "brothers" or "sisters" ?
Swiss has buy on board as well out of Geneva :-)
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by FlyingUnicorn » 03 Jul 2019, 20:25

Ansett wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 18:16
If SN is now re-integrating the Network-Airlines, why would they apply a very different on board catering practice than their three "brothers" or "sisters" ?

Sn Will not be a network-airlines.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Passenger » 03 Jul 2019, 20:33

Jetter wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 17:24
Passenger wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 17:10
Like I wrote already a few times: it's sad that so many posts here about Brussels Airlines and/or Lufthansa and/or Eurowings and/or Carsten Spohr are negative and/or unfriendly and/or hatefull and/or insulting and/or hostile (the one about Christina Foerster's wardrobe is, so far, the ugliest one).[/quote]
I agree Christina doesn’t have the most exciting wardrobe, but to say that it’s the ugliest is a bit overdramatic imo.
I didn't write that Foersters' wardrove is ugly. I referred to an ugly post from somebody else who said that Foerster's "ugly wardrobe" is a proof that she's unable to lead an airline.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 03 Jul 2019, 20:55

FlyingUnicorn wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 20:25
Ansett wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 18:16
If SN is now re-integrating the Network-Airlines, why would they apply a very different on board catering practice than their three "brothers" or "sisters" ?

Sn Will not be a network-airlines.
Then what will it be?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by FlyingUnicorn » 03 Jul 2019, 21:21

Like They mentioned in the press (not really in belgian press). It Will work close together with the network carriers. But it Will be in between the eurowings and network carrier.

My opinion. Long haul brussels airlines. Medium haul maybe seriously reduced and point to point destinations eurowings

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by KriVa » 03 Jul 2019, 21:24

As far as I understand it, the long haul part wouldn't work without the medium haul, since they desperately need the feeder flights coming in from all over Europe in the morning. The catchment area of BRU itself is not big enough to keep the long haul flights viable.
It was explained to me like that by someone from within SN some time ago. Granted, it's been a while since I've seen that presentation, so things may have changed, but it seemed to be pretty much their entire modus operandi.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by FlyingUnicorn » 03 Jul 2019, 21:27

You are correct. They need the feeder flights.
Holiday destinations eurowings, feeder flights brussels airlines.

In the press was mentioned that brussels airlines did not have a long haul like other network carriers
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by nordikcam » 03 Jul 2019, 21:47

FlyingUnicorn wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 21:27
You are correct. They need the feeder flights.
Holiday destinations eurowings, feeder flights brussels airlines.

In the press was mentioned that brussels airlines did not have a 360 degrees long haul hub and that was a reason for not being considered like a netWork carrier.
SN has more long haul destinations than OS...and OS is a network carrier, no ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 03 Jul 2019, 21:50

FlyingUnicorn wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 21:27
You are correct. They need the feeder flights.
Holiday destinations eurowings, feeder flights brussels airlines.

In the press was mentioned that brussels airlines did not have a 360 degrees long haul hub and that was a reason for not being considered like a netWork carrier.
So Brussels Airlines will be replaced by Eurowings on the European flights?!

I understand it wrongly I tought they gone a keep the Brand also for European flights so nothing changed in fact!!!!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by FlyingUnicorn » 03 Jul 2019, 21:57

:ugeek:
lumumba wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 21:50
FlyingUnicorn wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 21:27
You are correct. They need the feeder flights.
Holiday destinations eurowings, feeder flights brussels airlines.

In the press was mentioned that brussels airlines did not have a 360 degrees long haul hub and that was a reason for not being considered like a netWork carrier.
So Brussels Airlines will be replaced by Eurowings on the European flights?!

I understand it wrongly I tought they gone a keep the Brand also for European flights so nothing changed in fact!!!!


That was a personal opinion. Brussels airlines for the main european feeder flights. Maybe eurowings for the point to point. I think its Gonna be a mix.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 03 Jul 2019, 22:00

This is the press release...

The integration of Eurowings and Brussels Airlines has also been halted and the latter will be more closely aligned with the network airlines.

It's clear to me that there will be no Eurowings in Brussels Brussels Airlines will have to develop a bigger hub to survive I don't see a place for Eurowings.

Or just for the holidays flights and we speak about 3 or 4 planes here not more.

From where do you have this info are you an insider?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Passenger » 03 Jul 2019, 22:01

lumumba wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 21:50
I understand it wrongly I tought...
Indeed: you did not understand it.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 03 Jul 2019, 22:03

Passenger wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 22:01
lumumba wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 21:50
I understand it wrongly I tought...
Indeed: you did not understand it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: that's a good one ..
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by FlyingUnicorn » 03 Jul 2019, 22:15

lumumba wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 22:00
This is the press release...

The integration of Eurowings and Brussels Airlines has also been halted and the latter will be more closely aligned with the network airlines.

It's clear to me that there will be no Eurowings in Brussels Brussels Airlines will have to develop a bigger hub to survive I don't see a place for Eurowings.

Or just for the holidays flights and we speak about 3 or 4 planes here not more.

From where do you have this info are you an insider?
The press release is not clear to me. Just guessing
Closer aligned... but not a network carrier. Brussels was not mentioned in the marketcap...
Why no eurowings planes in brussels?! Can work. Like u said. 4 planes.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by nordikcam » 03 Jul 2019, 22:31

FlyingUnicorn wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 22:15
lumumba wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 22:00
This is the press release...

The integration of Eurowings and Brussels Airlines has also been halted and the latter will be more closely aligned with the network airlines.

It's clear to me that there will be no Eurowings in Brussels Brussels Airlines will have to develop a bigger hub to survive I don't see a place for Eurowings.

Or just for the holidays flights and we speak about 3 or 4 planes here not more.

From where do you have this info are you an insider?
The press release is not clear to me. Just guessing
Closer aligned... but not a network carrier. Brussels was not mentioned in the marketcap...
Why no eurowings planes in brussels?! Can work. Like u said. 4 planes.
SN has more long haul destinations than OS...OS is a network carrier. What's the difference with SN ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by DeltaWiskey » 03 Jul 2019, 22:54

The 4 network carriers in the LH Group are all operating in a different way, they all have a hub and a network but there isn't a single strategy that can be used across all airlines. There are 4 different strategies.

All airplanes operated from BRU by Brussels Airlines will be (re)painted in Brussels Airlines colors, also SNN and SFB.

It remains to be seen what is going to happen with SFJ-K-L-P (A330 operating from DUS), that is something that will be looked at this quarter. What's already known: (1) they will stay on the SN AOC, (2) the tickets will be commercialised by LH, but the aircraft won't be painted in Lufthansa c/s.
Eurowings colors will probably disappear (it would be confusing for the passengers and it does not fit well with the redefined Eurowings).

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 03 Jul 2019, 23:23

So maybe Brussels Airlines planes in Dusseldorf!!!! ( I mean in Brussels Airlines colours)
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 04 Jul 2019, 01:26

DeltaWiskey wrote:
03 Jul 2019, 22:54
The 4 network carriers in the LH Group are all operating in a different way, they all have a hub and a network but there isn't a single strategy that can be used across all airlines. There are 4 different strategies.

All airplanes operated from BRU by Brussels Airlines will be (re)painted in Brussels Airlines colors, also SNN and SFB.

It remains to be seen what is going to happen with SFJ-K-L-P (A330 operating from DUS), that is something that will be looked at this quarter. What's already known: (1) they will stay on the SN AOC, (2) the tickets will be commercialised by LH, but the aircraft won't be painted in Lufthansa c/s.
Eurowings colors will probably disappear (it would be confusing for the passengers and it does not fit well with the redefined Eurowings).
Thank you very much for your reliable information and explanation !

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