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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by luchtzak » 28 Jun 2019, 23:58

There are still 185 days between 28 June and 30 December …

https://www.aviation24.be/organisations ... d-of-2019/

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Post by N77014 » 29 Jun 2019, 11:56

I wonder if Boeing provides or pays for replacement planes for concerned airlines. Working for a car manufacturer, in such cases, we provide free replacement cars of approx the same size, whatever the cost. But I can imagine this would cost Boeing billions... Anybody knows what they offer ?

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Post by sn26567 » 29 Jun 2019, 12:21

N77014 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 11:56
I wonder if Boeing provides or pays for replacement planes for concerned airlines. Working for a car manufacturer, in such cases, we provide free replacement cars of approx the same size, whatever the cost. But I can imagine this would cost Boeing billions... Anybody knows what they offer ?
Boeing is discussing compensations with its customers on a case-by-case basis. It could, for example, be a discount on the price of future purchases. They try to avoid cash compensations.
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Post by Airbus330lover » 29 Jun 2019, 13:49

sn26567 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 12:21
N77014 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 11:56
I wonder if Boeing provides or pays for replacement planes for concerned airlines. Working for a car manufacturer, in such cases, we provide free replacement cars of approx the same size, whatever the cost. But I can imagine this would cost Boeing billions... Anybody knows what they offer ?
Boeing is discussing compensations with its customers on a case-by-case basis. It could, for example, be a discount on the price of future purchases. They try to avoid cash compensations.
Personnaly, i should try monetary compensation. Lower price, without vision on the future is pure nonsense

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by N77014 » 29 Jun 2019, 14:51

We do not provide cash compensations neither, but try to find a mobility solution for our customers so that they can keep driving and getting from A to B. Boeing could do that as well, but this might cost a fortune, seen the number of planes and duration... But so e.g. TUI pays for the lease of those Max planes + has to charter other planes and pay for them ??? That means Boeing - due to their quality concerns - drives many companies to huge losses ? I would say, unacceptable ! ( but who am I 😉)

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 29 Jun 2019, 15:56

N77014 wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 14:51
for our customers ... getting from A to B. Boeing could do that as well
In the present case it could be for customers going from B to A.
:mrgreen:

Sorry, was just too tempting.

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Post by Boeing767copilot » 29 Jun 2019, 16:52

Some interesting insights about the problem with the MAX by Gunther Hofman, managing director TUI fly.

FRENCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... x/?lang=fr

DUTCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... in-de-max/

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Post by sn26567 » 29 Jun 2019, 23:06

Boeing767copilot wrote:
29 Jun 2019, 16:52
Some interesting insights about the problem with the MAX by Gunther Hofman, managing director TUI fly.

FRENCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... x/?lang=fr

DUTCH:
https://travel-magazine.be/gunther-hofm ... in-de-max/

I guess this interview was made before the latest problem discovered last week that will delay the re-entry into service of the 737 MAX even more, probably until the end of the year. And also before the NOTAM of the BCAA banning the 737 MAX in Belgian airwpace until year end. I wonder if that might have changed Hofman's opinion. Of course, he has to endorse the decisions made by his company to keep their confidence in the aircraft.
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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 30 Jun 2019, 10:43

A Norwegian Sweden (DY/NAS - LE/NSW) Boeing 737 MAX with reg SE-RTC, flew yesterday 29JUN out of Gran Canaria and headed back home to OSL.
She left GCLP/LPA in the morning and first flew to LEMG/AGP Malaga. After a 1-hour refueling stop she took off again for Oslo, landing there at 19:17Z


SE-RTC 20190629.jpg

Limited altitude (Max FL200) and IAS (max 240 kts) seem to indicate the crew was prepared to pull out some flaps in case the MCAS got wild. Probably also a prerequisite for the flight plan to be accepted, flying over populated areas.

Wishing SE-RTC a good retirement in Norway.

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Post by sn26567 » 30 Jun 2019, 16:58

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 20:56
The Belgian CAA is not overoptimistic about MAX's resurrection :
Currently prohibited until the end of the year. I mean the current year.


A2252/19 NOTAMR A0999/19
Q) EBBU/QAFLP/IV/NBO/E /000/999/5029N00411E999
A) EBBU B) 1906271005 C) 1912302359 EST
E) BOEING 737-8 MAX AND BOEING 737-9 MAX PROHIBITED IN BELGIAN
AIRSPACE EXC NON COMMERCIAL FERRY FLT.
REF THE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY IN EXERCISE OF ITS POWERS IN
ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATION (EU) 2018/1139 ARTICLE 70
CREATED: 27 Jun 2019 10:10:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

TUI's birds will have square tyres by then.

Seriously, the prolonged storage in open air, Belgian air, may have its toll on several systems if they are not operated "once in a while".

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Well, André Berger, the TUI Director of Operations, just tweeted that "de notam zal onmiddellijk worden ingetrokken als de MAX opnieuw gecertificeerd is. De datum in de notam zegt niets over de termijn dat de 737Max terug commercieel zal mogen vliegen. Dat laatste weten we nog niet."

Which, in the universal aviation language, translates to "the NOTAM will be withdrawn immediately if the MAX is re-certified. The date in the NOTAM says nothing about the date when the 737Max will be allowed to fly back commercially. We do not yet know the latter."
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Post by sn26567 » 02 Jul 2019, 17:29

Delta, the only major airline without a 737 MAX, had a VERY good quarter!

American announced that, for the first time, it is suspending one route (Dallas Fort Worth to Oakland, California) because of the grounding if its 737 MAXs.

Southwest Airlines expects it will have to remove the grounded B737 MAX jets from its flying schedule beyond the current 01 October 2019 re-entry date following the discovery of a fresh safety issue.

SpiceJet will lease more B737 NGs and continue to expand capacity as the B737 MAX remains grounded.
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Re: Boeing 737 news

Post by jmry88 » 02 Jul 2019, 22:01

Hello
sn26567 I have been looking for the official report on why the 737 maxs crashed . Could you post these link/s because we here in parts of the usa have not been able view or read any reports. thanks for your time in advance.

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jmry88 wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 22:01
Hello sn26567
I have been looking for the official report on why the 737 maxs crashed. Could you post these link/s because we here in parts of the USA have not been able to view or read any reports? thanks for your time in advance.
This is a link to the preliminary report of the Ethiopian investigation team: http://www.ecaa.gov.et/documents/20435/ ... AVJ%29.pdf
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Re: Boeing 737 news

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sn26567 wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 23:20
jmry88 wrote:
02 Jul 2019, 22:01
Hello sn26567
I have been looking for the official report on why the 737 maxs crashed. Could you post these link/s because we here in parts of the USA have not been able to view or read any reports? thanks for your time in advance.
This is a link to the preliminary report of the Ethiopian investigation team: http://www.ecaa.gov.et/documents/20435/ ... AVJ%29.pdf
You can also find a lot of info and links here:
Ethiopian:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4c534c4a/0052&opt=0
LionAir:
http://avherald.com/h?article=4bf90724/0009&opt=0
737 MAX incidents:
https://aviation-safety.net/database/ty ... -MAX/index

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Passenger » 06 Jul 2019, 20:23

Unconfirmed story, but from a reliable source:

"...EASA has outlined five major requirements it wants Boeing to address before it will allow the 737 MAX to return to service, according to a person familiar with the matter. One of them, about the jet’s autopilot function, hasn’t surfaced previously as an area of concern..."

More info:
https://skift.com/2019/07/06/boeing-73 ... egulators/

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Passenger » 07 Jul 2019, 13:37

Gregory Davis (*): "...How the Boeing 737 Max Disaster Looks to a Software Developer - Design shortcuts meant to make a new plane seem like an old, familiar one are to blame..."

https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/avi ... -developer

(*) Gregory Davis about himself: I have been a pilot for 30 years, a software developer for more than 40. I have written extensively about both aviation and software engineering. Now it’s time for me to write about both together.

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Post by sn26567 » 07 Jul 2019, 15:17

On 21 December 2018, FlyADeal (Saudi Arabia) wrote: "The Boeing 737 MAX was selected after a thorough analysis of the safety and efficiency of the aircraft by cross-functional internal committees and aviation experts. Our commercial evaluation also confirmed the suitability of the aircraft for flyadeal’s future growth plans".

Today, FlyADeal announces it has cancelled the Boeing 737 MAX 8 order and will buy 30 Airbus A320neo-family aircraft + 20 options for delivery from 2021.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/flya ... 737-max-8/
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Post by sn26567 » 08 Jul 2019, 22:36

EASA has outlined five major requirements it wants Boeing to address before it will allow the planemaker’s B737 MAX to return to service. One of them concerns the jet’s autopilot function.
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Post by sn26567 » 12 Jul 2019, 16:28

Eric Lindblad, the Boeing vice president who runs the assembly plant in Renton and manages the B737 MAX programme, is retiring after a mere 12 months on the job. Difficult job...

Eric Lindblad will be replaced by Mark Jenks, formerly in charge of developing the proposal for an all-new aircraft, the NMA (aka B797).
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by sn26567 » 14 Jul 2019, 14:33

Willie Walsh (CEO of IAG) confirms he intends to buy 200 MAX aircraft and convert his LoI into a firm order, blaming a.o. late deliveries of Airbus A320neo aircraft. But isn't a late delivery better than any delivery at all? Boeing MAX deliveries are completely stalled when Airbus A320 deliveries continue!

Does his former job as a 737 pilot completely bias his analysis capabilities?
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