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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Conti764 » 14 Jun 2019, 20:42

DeltaWiskey wrote:
14 Jun 2019, 19:07
Conti764 wrote:
14 Jun 2019, 18:43
Shame on me but I've thought to be seeing a taxiing Max from Tuifly one day, it appeared to be a 737NG with scimitar winglets... :oops:

I thought Boeing only made them available on Max aircraft.
They are slightly different.
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Other easy to spot differences are the engine cowling "chevrons" and the different APU exhaust.
Thanks ;) Didnt know...

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Post by TLspotting » 14 Jun 2019, 20:50

All 4 TUI fly BE MAX are on Taxiway Yankee at Brussels.

The only way to go for them is maybe to Hangar 40 / TUIport, nothing more ;)
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Passenger » 15 Jun 2019, 10:46

People forget. Tourists forget. Tourism to Egypt and Tunisia have recovered from zero – but not to the same level as before their deadly terrorist attacks. I predict the same for the 737 MAX. Once the aircraft is declared airworthy, passengers will fly on them. But not at the same level as they did before the ET crash: many passengers will look at the aircraft type, and will eventually change their flight or their airline.

Airlines will do their upmost to regain confidence. Like Jan Peeters (travel360.be) wrote: “…Marketing en PR consultants zijn al een hele tijd bezig om scenario’s, slogans en verhalen te bedenken om de consument te overtuigen dat het bewuste Boeing type bij her ingebruikname, ook helemaal veilig zal zijn….”

The safety image is much more damaged than some here suggest. And it won’t help to ridiculize tourists and/or businessmen like “they even don’t know if they board an Airbus or a Boeing”. A lot of polls and surveys have been done. Me thinks the most relevant one, is the one done by IPSOS and Reuters (see link below - IPSOS is a professional survey company). Reuters reported about the results that the damage isn’t too bad: “…In the public opinion poll released May 15, only about half of U.S. adults say they are familiar with the airplane crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia that together killed 346 people, and only 43% could identify the Boeing 737 MAX as the aircraft involved…"

Good news? Not really if one looks at all questions and answers from that poll. 22% of the 2008 respondents have never heard about both crashes. These are the American citizens who turn in 24/7 on sports channels, cartoons channels, a.o. After all, it’s a general survey, not a survey between passengers only. Same applies for the "only 43% able to identify the MAX as aircraft type". That may look reassuring for Boeing, but repliers had to choose between a 737 MAX and a 737NG. Doubt? You then vote “don’t know”. Hence the high number "don't know" there.
"...These are findings from an Ipsos poll conducted April 30-May 2, 2019 on behalf of Thomson Reuters. For the survey, a sample of roughly 2,008 adults age 18+ from the continental U.S., Alaska and Hawaii was interviewed online in English..."

How familiar are you with news of recent crashes of the Lion Air flight in Indonesia and/or the Ethiopian Airlines flight in Ethiopia?
19% Very familiar
31% Somewhat familiar
12% Not very familiar
16% I have heard of them, but that’s about it
22% I have never heard of them

Do you know what company built the aircraft that crashed in the two incidents in Ethiopia and Indonesia?
3% Airbus
82% Boeing
2% Bombardier
1% Embraer
1% Cessna
0% Tupolev

Do you know which aircraft model was involved in the crashes in Ethiopia and Indonesia?
43% 737 MAX
1% A380
1% A350
1% 777X
3% 737NG
1% MD-90
1% MD-11
0% A320 neo
48% Don’t know
Sources:
Reuters article:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... SKCN1SL12D
IPSOS Poll (pdf 460 kB):
https://tmsnrt.rs/2VNbtI7

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by sn26567 » 18 Jun 2019, 20:59

Boeing has no plans to change the name of the B737 MAX after news reports that it would be prepared to do so to improve its future marketing.

However, something strange happened today. IAG disclosed its intent to buy 200 (!) Boeing 737 MAX 8 and 10 aircraft. In the Boeing press release, the name Boeing 737 MAX was prominent, whereas in the IAG statement the aircraft were mentioned as 737-8 and 737-10. Not one single mention of "MAX"! Still the fear of a bad reputation?
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Post by sn26567 » 20 Jun 2019, 21:10

American Airlines schedules B737 MAX 8 routes from 04 September 2019, as the carrier expects the return to service of the grounded plane. I wouldn't bet on it!

Boeing says it’s in talks with airlines for sales of its grounded B737 MAX, while dismissing the launch of the A321XLR as suitable for only a “sliver” of the market that Boeing hopes to address with a possible NMA (or 797).
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Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2019, 10:35

Boeing is slapped with a class-action lawsuit from more than 400 pilots who say the company covered up design flaws in its 737 Max planes.

Pilots affected by the decision to ground the aircraft "suffer and continue to suffer significant lost wages, among other economic and non-economic damages," according to the lawsuit.

https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... d-cover-up
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Post by Passenger » 23 Jun 2019, 13:23

Another indept article by The Seattle Times:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... afeguards/

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Post by sn26567 » 24 Jun 2019, 21:17

American Airlines CEO Doug Parker told employees that there could be even more delays to the B737 MAX because of “politics”, signalling that the FAA is increasingly worried about its reputation following two fatal crashes.
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by sn26567 » 26 Jun 2019, 18:07

Boeing has so many grounded MAX’s, they’re parking them in the employee lot, next to private cars
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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by flightlover » 26 Jun 2019, 23:27

sn26567 wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 18:07
Boeing has so many grounded MAX’s, they’re parking them in the employee lot, next to private cars

Boeing-MAX-Parking-Lot.png
Will they be getting their own 737 MAX to commute to work in a few weeks time :P

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Post by Passenger » 27 Jun 2019, 00:55

(Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has identified a new risk that Boeing must address on its 737 MAX before the grounded jet can return to service, the FAA said on Wednesday.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... SKCN1TR30J

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Re: Boeing 737 (MAX) news

Post by Matt » 27 Jun 2019, 08:45

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27 Jun 2019, 00:55
(Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has identified a new risk that Boeing must address on its 737 MAX before the grounded jet can return to service, the FAA said on Wednesday.

Source - more info:
Reuters.com:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... SKCN1TR30J
I don't get how Boeing has made one of it's greatest products in such a fiasco. Even Airbus is astounished about what's going on.

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Passenger wrote:
27 Jun 2019, 00:55
(Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration has identified a new risk that Boeing must address on its 737 MAX before the grounded jet can return to service, the FAA said on Wednesday.

Source - more info:
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethi ... SKCN1TR30J
Official statement FAA:

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Post by sn26567 » 27 Jun 2019, 15:41

IATA to host a meeting for airlines and regulators in Montreal to exchange views on steps needed for a safe and coordinated return of B737 MAX jets to the skies following two deadly crashes.
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Post by sn26567 » 27 Jun 2019, 23:30

Boeing is negotiating a proposed settlement with the families of some victims of the crash of a Lion Air B737 MAX in 2018.

Boeing says it will comply with a request from the FAA on new software changes to the B737 MAX, which the planned software changes do not presently address. That means even more delay before FAA approval.

IATA urged state aviation safety regulators to continue to align on technical validation requirements and timelines for the safe re-entry into service of the B737 MAX aircraft.

Southwest Airlines extends 737 MAX cancellations through October 1.
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Post by sn26567 » 28 Jun 2019, 16:51

Four of the world’s leading aircraft regulators have reached a tentative agreement to coordinate in restoring Boeing’s 737 Max to service. European Union, Canada and Brazil would act on a similar timeline as FAA.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ooperation
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Post by Homo Aeroportus » 28 Jun 2019, 20:56

The Belgian CAA is not overoptimistic about MAX's resurrection :
Currently prohibited until the end of the year. I mean the current year.


A2252/19 NOTAMR A0999/19
Q) EBBU/QAFLP/IV/NBO/E /000/999/5029N00411E999
A) EBBU B) 1906271005 C) 1912302359 EST
E) BOEING 737-8 MAX AND BOEING 737-9 MAX PROHIBITED IN BELGIAN
AIRSPACE EXC NON COMMERCIAL FERRY FLT.
REF THE CIVIL AVIATION AUTHORITY IN EXERCISE OF ITS POWERS IN
ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATION (EU) 2018/1139 ARTICLE 70
CREATED: 27 Jun 2019 10:10:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

TUI's birds will have square tyres by then.

Seriously, the prolonged storage in open air, Belgian air, may have its toll on several systems if they are not operated "once in a while".

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Post by sn26567 » 28 Jun 2019, 23:06

Boeing 737 MAX fleet is expected to stay grounded until late 2019 as a result of the latest flight-control problem flagged by the FAA.

Boeing to face class action lawsuit on behalf of more than 400 pilots from a major international airline claiming compensatory damages from the grounding of the B737 MAX fleet.

Turkish Airlines removed all B737 MAX flights from its schedule listing effective 27 October 2019.
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