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Boeing is being sued by French widow who filed a lawsuit against the manufacturer for US$276 million in damages over the crash in Ethiopia of a B737 MAX 8, which killed all 157 people on board — including her husband.
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Bracebrace wrote: 23 May 2019, 11:58
pilot_gent wrote: 23 May 2019, 11:46 - At low speed a certain amount of change will trigger a pitching moment, the same amount of change will cause a larger pitching moment at high speed.
- the final blow of MCAS at >340 kts put the aircraft in a nose down moment, unable to arrest with elevator alone (while before they were).

Anyway, this is all secondary. If you drive a car and the car goes too fast you remove your foot from the pedal. You would expect a fully qualified flight crew to do the same with an aircraft going in overspeed.
Not really, it's about the in-trim speed. As said before, in order to move the stabilizer, the forces depend on the difference between the in-trim speed and the actual speed. The lower the difference, the lower the forces. So in order to be able to move the stabilizer - trimmed for a high-speed, you need to go for that speed. If that speed is an overspeed, you need to go into overspeed or you will not be able to recover. Reducing speed will only reduce effectiveness. You need the speed. Aerodynamic offloading with a jammed stabilizer as explained in the FCTM (which Boeing asks you to do in the stab trim runaway checklist)
Since you are still talking about a different thing than I am I'll give it a rest (i never referred to trimming manually).

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No, Boeing does. It is a stabilizer trim runaway. The procedure the Ethiopian guys followed.

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Boeing will tailor its compensation to airlines for the B737 MAX grounding around customer preference, and they could be paid back in services instead of cash.
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A team of the New York Times has been working for months to uncover how two Boeing 737 MAX planes ended up with a fatal flaw. Yesterday, the New York Times published that story. This is the tale of the 737 MAX:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/busi ... crash.html
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Ethiopian Airlines will be the last airline globally to resume flights with the Boeing 737 Max once it has been certified to return to the skies.

Speaking at the IATA annual general meeting in Seoul today, Ethiopian chief executive Tewolde Gebremariam told reporters that the African carrier will only restart flights with the type "after the regulators decide and when we see airlines start flying it", adding: "We will be the last one".

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... gh-458605/
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Some Boeing 737 MAX planes may have 'improperly manufactured' parts that should be replaced, says FAA

Boeing’s troubled 737 MAX model, alongside its NG aircraft, has been hit by another safety issue as the plane manufacturer revealed that some aircraft parts were improperly manufactured and would need replacement.

Source: RT (I know: not the most reliable or trustworthy source)
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sn26567 wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 22:17 Some Boeing 737 MAX planes may have 'improperly manufactured' parts that should be replaced, says FAA

Boeing’s troubled 737 MAX model, alongside its NG aircraft, has been hit by another safety issue as the plane manufacturer revealed that some aircraft parts were improperly manufactured and would need replacement.

Source: RT (I know: not the most reliable or trustworthy source)
It seems that RT was correct indeed (like they are most of the time).
New source:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKCN1T30RX

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sn26567 wrote: 02 Jun 2019, 22:17 Some Boeing 737 MAX planes may have 'improperly manufactured' parts that should be replaced, says FAA

Boeing’s troubled 737 MAX model, alongside its NG aircraft, has been hit by another safety issue as the plane manufacturer revealed that some aircraft parts were improperly manufactured and would need replacement.

Source: RT (I know: not the most reliable or trustworthy source)
Confirmed by the FAA itself: https://www.aviation24.be/organisations ... red-parts/
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AZAL Azerbaijan Airlines has cancelled a US$1 billion contract with Boeing to purchase 10 B737 MAX jets due to safety reasons.

Emirates president Tim Clark says the B737 MAX will likely not be back in the skies before the end of 2019 because of a fall-out in cooperation between the FAA and other national regulators.

Malaysia Airlines is looking at its order for 25 B737 MAX jets “very carefully” in light of the global grounding and plans for the first delivery in July 2020 could be delayed. Malaysia Airlines is reviewing whether to go ahead with a US$2.75 billion order to buy 25 of B737 MAX jets. Though the airline hasn’t made any decision, it wants reassurances from Boeing about the plane’s safety before proceeding further.
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Boeing is conducting simulated flights with air-safety regulators this week and plans to fly its B737 MAX with the FAA “very soon” to get the grounded planes cleared to return to airline service. The MAX is expected to fly again by the end of 2019.

LOT Polish Airlines ruled out cancelling an order for grounded B737 MAX but urged the planemaker to take steps to restore their credibility after two accidents.
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Icelandair fired its MAX pilots...
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Does that mean that Icelandair won't use the 737MAX again or is it just to save costs?

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Yuqu12 wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 09:01 Does that mean that Icelandair won't use the 737MAX again or is it just to save costs?
More info: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/icel ... dismissed/

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Who wants to step in a max anytime soon ?
Better get your loss and go away
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TUI Airlines group now estimates at 300 million euros the cost of the grounding of its Boeing 737 MAX fleet.
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LOT Polish Airlines reportedly plans to move five grounded Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft from Warsaw Frederic Chopin Airport to Lublin Airport.
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sn26567 wrote: 05 Jun 2019, 16:04 LOT Polish Airlines reportedly plans to move five grounded Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft from Warsaw Frederic Chopin Airport to Lublin Airport.
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There is a new consumer research (B/C) on the 737 MAX, conducted by "Atmosphere Research". They present themselves as: "...Atmosphere Group is an independent, objective strategic market research and advisory firm serving the global travel industry. We help our clients anticipate and understand emerging trends and develop actionable strategies to help make them more successful..."
New research about travelers and the Boeing 737 MAX

No commercial aircraft has generated the levels of concern and anxiety among airline passengers as the Boeing 737 MAX. How will passengers react when the plane is allowed to return to service? What actions do Boeing, the FAA, and airlines need to consider to regain their trust? And what media and platforms will be most effective? To learn how travelers feel, Atmosphere recently surveyed 2,000 US airline passengers. The findings are compelling:

* More than 7 in 10 passengers know the 737 MAX has been grounded.

* Just 19% of business passengers and 14% of leisure passengers would definitely fly the plane in the first six months after it is allowed to return to service.

* Nearly half of leisure passengers would consider taking a flight using a plane other than the 737 MAX, even if it cost them $80 more round trip.

* A detailed video that shows and explains the safety changes made to the 737 MAX will be the most effective communications tool to regain travelers’ trust.

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https://atmosphereresearch.com/
https://atmosphereresearch.com/research ... g-737-max/

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