Lufthansa in 2019

[sn26567]

I don't have the figures for OS, EW and SN yet, let me time to dig further

No need to dig for SN: its results are drowned in the big loss of EW.

[sn-remember]

Thank you to the crew of this site, plenty of figures and analysises to browse through. Except for LX, the other players of the group are heavily in the red, not a glorious Q1 this year worse than expected. However as the saying goes, no dark cloud can forever prevent the sun from shining, at least we would like to believe it concerning the EW venture ...

[Poiu]

I don't have the figures for OS, EW and SN yet, let me time to dig further

No need to dig for SN: its results are drowned in the big loss of EW.

What makes you think SN’s figures are good?
(Not saying they are bad, just curious to know whether you have data to back up your statement. The only thing I see is stagnating growth and an unhealthy load factor)

[sn26567]

I don't have the figures for OS, EW and SN yet, let me time to dig further

No need to dig for SN: its results are drowned in the big loss of EW.

What makes you think SN’s figures are good?
(Not saying they are bad, just curious to know whether you have data to back up your statement. The only thing I see is stagnating growth and an unhealthy load factor)

The SN figures are not good. I spoke with Christina Foerster this morning, and she said the SN figures were negative, like generally in the LH Group. The Q1 figures are always the worst, for every airline. Nevertheless, Foerster is confident the year will end in black figures for SN. Not so sure about EW.

[PttU]

No need to dig for SN: its results are drowned in the big loss of EW.

What makes you think SN’s figures are good?
(Not saying they are bad, just curious to know whether you have data to back up your statement. The only thing I see is stagnating growth and an unhealthy load factor)

The SN figures are not good. I spoke with Christina Foerster this morning, and she said the SN figures were negative, like generally in the LH Group. The Q1 figures are always the worst, for every airline. Nevertheless, Foerster is confident the year will end in black figures for SN. Not so sure about EW.

Any comment on the reason for the negative figures? Skeyes-actions? Overall lower revenue? Or "we don't know"?

[TLspotting]

[TLspotting]

Lufthansa (Group) made a bid for Condor take over.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/thom ... ne-condor/

[sn26567]

Lufthansa (Group) made a bid for Condor take over.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/thom ... ne-condor/

The experience of Eurowings swallowing other airlines is not very successful until now

[TLspotting]

Lufthansa to fly using A343 only once a week from Frankfurt to Dublin as LH978/9 on Wednesday as from 3rd July.

Definitely another short flight with a big plane to make!

[Matt]

Lufthansa (Group) made a bid for Condor take over.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/thom ... ne-condor/

Didnt they once own Condor...?

[sn26567]

Lufthansa (Group) made a bid for Condor take over.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/thom ... ne-condor/

Didn't they once own Condor...?

If you go through the article, you will read that Lufthansa once owned 50% of Condor.

[sn26567]

Lufthansa Group focuses on high quality and responsible growth at its AGM.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... l-meeting/

Again and again. Lufthansa completely ignores Brussels Airlines in its press release. And not one single Brussels Airlines crew in the family picture. A complete lack of respect!

[C96C]

Lufthansa Group focuses on high quality and responsible growth at its AGM.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... l-meeting/

Again and again. Lufthansa completely ignores Brussels Airlines in its press release. And not one single Brussels Airlines crew in the family picture. A complete lack of respect!

Euhm... I count 2 SN crew on the original picture...

[luchtzak]

Euhm... I count 2 SN crew on the original picture...

What's your point ?

[sn26567]

Lufthansa, SWISS and Austrian Airlines customer service now also available via Messenger App.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -airlines/

And Brussels Airlines? Brussels who? Are they part of the Lufthansa Group?

[C96C]

Euhm... I count 2 SN crew on the original picture...

What's your point ?

No point, I just wanted to mention that there is SN crew on the picture.

[Boavida]

Lufthansa, SWISS and Austrian Airlines customer service now also available via Messenger App.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -airlines/

And Brussels Airlines? Brussels who? Are they part of the Lufthansa Group?

The treatment of SN by LH is (compared to the way they treat LX and OS), I'm afraid, an example of how Germans look to Belgium: we're "quantité négligeable", a country with no national identity (they wrongly think), a country that can be tossed around without the slightest bit of respect.

I could see a parallel with how they were never bothered by our existence during particular events in the 20th century, but I won't...

Funny detail, if we compare Belgium to Switzerland and Austria: Belgium is (population wise) the biggest country. 11,3 million compared to 8,7 million for Austria and 8,4 million for Switzerland. So a little more respect should be welcome.

[Passenger]

I could see a parallel with how they were never bothered by our existence during particular events in the 20th century, but I won't...

Actually, you did.

Funny detail, if we compare Belgium to Switzerland and Austria: Belgium is (population wise) the biggest country. 11,3 million compared to 8,7 million for Austria and 8,4 million for Switzerland. So a little more respect should be welcome.

Now compare your population figures with the gross national product (quick calculation, abbreviated to 2 digits, same source for all):
Switzerland: 66
Austria: 53
Belgium: 48

[Boavida]

So what is your point?


Btw:

GDP Belgium: 492.7 billion USD (2017)
GDP Austria: 416.6 billion USD (2017)
GDP Switzerland: 678.9 billion USD (2017)

[Jetter]

And Brussels Airlines? Brussels who? Are they part of the Lufthansa Group?

Indirectly, through EuroWings.