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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by airtrainer » 30 Apr 2019, 23:40

Shame on SN for not inviting spotters like they did for the 5 past specials. :evil:

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Boavida » 30 Apr 2019, 23:45

In the latest LH Group press release, Brussels Airlines isn't even mentioned anymore. Also, this picture says it all:

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Over & out.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 01 May 2019, 01:16

It really hurts...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Jetter » 01 May 2019, 05:31

Those seem like the tails of short haul planes. SN still has the long haul center of excellence! :idea:

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 01 May 2019, 08:09

airtrainer wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 23:40
Shame on SN for not inviting spotters like they did for the 5 past specials. :evil:
Aviation24.be will go livestream on Facebook and will publish article asap!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by TLspotting » 01 May 2019, 09:00

airtrainer wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 23:40
Shame on SN for not inviting spotters like they did for the 5 past specials. :evil:
I have been a spotter for now 3 years. I'm on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. If you forget the fact that I'm now Junior Editor here, I haven't been ever invited by Brussels Airlines.
I'm Thibault Lapers, spotter in Belgium for now 3 years, but not yet across the world and a huuuuuge aviation geek ! Join me on Facebook & Twitter @TLspotting

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by airtrainer » 01 May 2019, 21:23

luchtzak wrote:
01 May 2019, 08:09
airtrainer wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 23:40
Shame on SN for not inviting spotters like they did for the 5 past specials. :evil:
Aviation24.be will go livestream on Facebook and will publish article asap!
And ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Shonix » 02 May 2019, 12:30

Still don't understand why SN keeps spending money on painting their aircrafts knowing the fact that the brand will disappear.

Such a pity to see that Belgium will have no more "Belgian-branded" airline...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Jetter » 02 May 2019, 12:45

Shonix wrote:
02 May 2019, 12:30
Still don't understand why SN keeps spending money on painting their aircrafts knowing the fact that the brand will disappear.

Such a pity to see that Belgium will have no more "Belgian-branded" airline...
That won’t happen for a while as we already have Air Belgium. It is a downward spiral however with Sabena->Brussels Airlines->Air Belgium.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by convair » 02 May 2019, 14:43

OO-SFD ( "newest" SN aircraft) is now on the Douala route for the third day in a row, with the new cabin interior.
I don't remember seeing a presentation of it, or did I miss something?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 02 May 2019, 15:00

convair wrote:
02 May 2019, 14:43
I don't remember seeing a presentation of it, or did I miss something?
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... n-the-air/

and a trip report of the new premium economy: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... m-economy/

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by convair » 02 May 2019, 17:08

luchtzak wrote:
02 May 2019, 15:00
convair wrote:
02 May 2019, 14:43
I don't remember seeing a presentation of it, or did I miss something?
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... n-the-air/

and a trip report of the new premium economy: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... m-economy/
Thanks luchtzak. I'd indeed missed it.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Boavida » 03 May 2019, 15:21

Jetter wrote:
02 May 2019, 12:45
Shonix wrote:
02 May 2019, 12:30
Still don't understand why SN keeps spending money on painting their aircrafts knowing the fact that the brand will disappear.

Such a pity to see that Belgium will have no more "Belgian-branded" airline...
That won’t happen for a while as we already have Air Belgium. It is a downward spiral however with Sabena->Brussels Airlines->Air Belgium.
With all due respect, but Air Belgium is currently a failed project. They are lucky to be able to fly for other airlines at the moment, because without this lifeline it would probably be already over.

Nonetheless I really hope they succeed. Maybe they can become the new flag carrier of Belgium (and fly from BRU!), as LH is determined to kill Brussels Airlines.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Jetter » 03 May 2019, 15:59

Boavida wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:21
With all due respect, but Air Belgium is currently a failed project. They are lucky to be able to fly for other airlines at the moment, because without this lifeline it would probably be already over.
While I agree, by that definition Sabena was always a failed project because they were lucky to have been supported by the taxpayer and thus Belgium would have never had a national airline.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Poiu » 03 May 2019, 22:27

Boavida wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:21
LH is determined to kill Brussels Airlines.
Not again PLEASE!
LH saved Brussels Airlines from bankruptcy at a time when nobody wanted to invest in SN.
The name may , probably will, disappear but employment will remain.
What’s in a name anyhow?
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Klausenburg » 03 May 2019, 22:45

I'll just give my 2cents regarding the off-topic issue of why Jacques Brel should or shouldn't be on another plane of SN. He was one of the few (if not the only) Francophone singer that made the effort to sing in Flemish. I so not understand why would he be so controversial on the north of the taalgrens. BTW, the Flemish version of Laat Me Niet Alleen (Ne Me Quitte Pas) was better then the French one. Enjoy:

Or who else dared to sing (partially) in Flemish for the public in France?


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Regarding the name change, it really not making any sense considering the way the two business (SN and EW) are evolving.

Full year capacity growth at the Network Airlines [i.e. Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, and Brussels Airlines] will be around 4%. At Eurowings, we even decided to cut our growth plans to zero, also considering ongoing capacity constraints in the European aviation systems," Svensson said.

Read more: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... m=facebook
However, it is typically German - for good and bad - to follow a plan without changes until it totally wins or fails. So I wouldn't have high hopes.

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Air Belgium could become a new flag carrier by a heavy investment from the Gulf (or maybe China - but a serious one). I would see a scenario a la Air Italy...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Boavida » 04 May 2019, 12:56

Poiu wrote:
03 May 2019, 22:27
Boavida wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:21
LH is determined to kill Brussels Airlines.
Not again PLEASE!
LH saved Brussels Airlines from bankruptcy at a time when nobody wanted to invest in SN.
The name may , probably will, disappear but employment will remain.
What’s in a name anyhow?

Just realise this: what will be the end result of this "saving" by LH? Brussels Airlines will no longer exist and will be replaced by their own low-cost carrier Eurowings.

If SN would have gone bankrupt, there would have also been another (new?) company to fill the gap.

So in the end, the result is the same. LH did not save SN.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by jan_olieslagers » 04 May 2019, 13:20

They did save more of it than anyone else, though. But I agree their first aim must rather have been to do a bargain purchase that they could somehow fit into their long-term planning/strategy.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by convair » 04 May 2019, 23:53

Klausenburg wrote:
03 May 2019, 22:45
Regarding the name change, it really not making any sense considering the way the two business (SN and EW) are evolving.
Full year capacity growth at the Network Airlines [i.e. Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, and Brussels Airlines] will be around 4%. At Eurowings, we even decided to cut our growth plans to zero, also considering ongoing capacity constraints in the European aviation systems," Svensson said.

Read more: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... m=facebook
Let's not make too much of this: maybe the "Network Airlines" mentioned between brackets was merely an explanatory addition by CH-aviation (note that Swiss is not mentioned though!) and has no real meaning. If Brussels Airlines was actually mentioned by Svensson, then it could have some significance and, hence, could be interpreted as a slight blow to Carsten Spohr.

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