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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Omychron » 08 Mar 2019, 14:49

C96C wrote:
08 Mar 2019, 14:30
OO-SFK (Airbus A330-343, serial 0570, ex LH D-AIKA) is on the Belgian register since today (8/03/2019). Is for the EW-wetlease.

http://www.mobilit.fgov.be:7081/bcaa/ai ... search.jsf
Foreseen to enter DUS operation before the end of March.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by ZavCity » 14 Mar 2019, 09:58

Hi
OO-SFK arrived yesterday at 18.25 from MLA
I noticed somewhere an illustration of Boeing 789 in LH/SR/OS colors..No SN??Why not..Switzerland and Austria are smaller countries...very sad once again...
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Treeper » 14 Mar 2019, 10:06

ZavCity wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 09:58
Hi
OO-SFK arrived yesterday at 18.25 from MLA
I noticed somewhere an illustration of Boeing 789 in LH/SR/OS colors..No SN??Why not..Switzerland and Austria are smaller countries...very sad once again...
paul
Switzerland and Austria are smallet countries? Than Belgium? On what level then?

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by ZavCity » 14 Mar 2019, 10:12

Sorry, population Imeant
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 14 Mar 2019, 10:13

Treeper wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 10:06
ZavCity wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 09:58
Hi
OO-SFK arrived yesterday at 18.25 from MLA
I noticed somewhere an illustration of Boeing 789 in LH/SR/OS colors..No SN??Why not..Switzerland and Austria are smaller countries...very sad once again...
paul
Switzerland and Austria are smallet countries? Than Belgium? On what level then?
Bigger populations bigger Economy etc.....economically where equal with Switzerland but for the rest Belgium brings bigger numbers.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 14 Mar 2019, 10:27

ZavCity wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 09:58

I noticed somewhere an illustration of Boeing 789 in LH/SR/OS colors..No SN??Why not..Switzerland and Austria are smaller countries...very sad once again...
paul
I asked Lufthansa why Brussels Airlines, the long-haul specialist of the Eurowings group, was not on the picture.

Reply: "good morning Mr Orban, the decision regarding which airline will deploy the aircraft at which hub will be made at a later date. This is just a rendering."
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Post by TLspotting » 14 Mar 2019, 10:32

Brussels Airlines is dead, no need to go further.
I'm Thibault Lapers, spotter in Belgium for now 3 years, but not yet across the world and a huuuuuge aviation geek ! Join me on Facebook & Twitter @TLspotting

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by shockcooling » 14 Mar 2019, 12:39

Brussels Airlines is not even mentioned by name any longer in the LH group results of 2018. For me it's weird as I still think Brussels Airlines still exists as an airline...

Neither here https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... h-in-2019/
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by BrightCedars » 14 Mar 2019, 13:21

Brussels Airlines, a.k.a. Eurowings will get a shitload of used A330s it seems. I just hope that LH Group will take this into account when they compare the efficiency and returns of each component in the group. SN/EW may very well use BRU as a hub for long-haul flights but that doesn't seem to be a priority, although that would be a good way to hit at other low cost operators such as Norwegian. Of course it'll also hit at the established less efficient historical network carriers of which LH is an example. A bit of a schizophrenic situation if you ask me, and that doesn't bode too well for the future.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by ezis_bis » 14 Mar 2019, 13:42

BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:21
BRU as a hub for long-haul flights
I somehow doubt it. Recently I get lots of advertisement on my screen;

Fly to the US with SQ! Via FRA

It always annoys me.
1) FRA is a horrible place to change planes (only do it when other options are too difficult)
2) The flights are not with SQ but with LH
3) Not even the shortest route

So I feel quite a strong push to get sent all the time through FRA, and I really resist it / don't like it.

Later this year I need to get to Seoul, and for sure I won't fly LH. I'll pick SK or smth, it's more comfortable and they're not doing their very best to limit my options.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by CTBke » 14 Mar 2019, 13:45

Omychron wrote:
08 Mar 2019, 14:49
C96C wrote:
08 Mar 2019, 14:30
OO-SFK (Airbus A330-343, serial 0570, ex LH D-AIKA) is on the Belgian register since today (8/03/2019). Is for the EW-wetlease.

http://www.mobilit.fgov.be:7081/bcaa/ai ... search.jsf
Foreseen to enter DUS operation before the end of March.

Will be operating for SN first until it goes to EW DUS
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by sn26567 » 14 Mar 2019, 14:31

CTBke wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:45
Omychron wrote:
08 Mar 2019, 14:49
C96C wrote:
08 Mar 2019, 14:30
OO-SFK (Airbus A330-343, serial 0570, ex LH D-AIKA) is on the Belgian register since today (8/03/2019). Is for the EW-wetlease.

http://www.mobilit.fgov.be:7081/bcaa/ai ... search.jsf
Foreseen to enter DUS operation before the end of March.
Will be operating for SN first until it goes to EW DUS
In EW colours? It would not be a first...
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by BrightCedars » 14 Mar 2019, 14:46

BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:21
Brussels Airlines, a.k.a. Eurowings will get a shitload of used A330s it seems. I just hope that LH Group will take this into account when they compare the efficiency and returns of each component in the group. SN/EW may very well use BRU as a hub for long-haul flights but that doesn't seem to be a priority, although that would be a good way to hit at other low cost operators such as Norwegian. Of course it'll also hit at the established less efficient historical network carriers of which LH is an example. A bit of a schizophrenic situation if you ask me, and that doesn't bode too well for the future.
Somewhat reassuring news at https://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1536/Econom ... ines.dhtml stating that SN result is positive but of course shall improve.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by CTBke » 14 Mar 2019, 15:21

sn26567 wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 14:31
CTBke wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:45
Omychron wrote:
08 Mar 2019, 14:49


Foreseen to enter DUS operation before the end of March.
Will be operating for SN first until it goes to EW DUS
In EW colours? It would not be a first...
just like SFJ last year
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Matt » 14 Mar 2019, 15:24

BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:21
Brussels Airlines, a.k.a. Eurowings will get a shitload of used A330s it seems.
Not necessarily a problem tough. the used A330's are all maximum 10y old so it seems with quite efficient Trent 700 engines. Not only that: Brussels Airlines doesn't really has flights of 11+ hours. The A330's are perfect.
A350's is overkill for Brussels Airlines. The B787-8 however would fill in some niches for Brussels Airlines tough...

I would be more worried if Brussels Airlines got the old 767's or 777's of Austrian.... Or even worse: Lufthansa's written A340's ( both 300 and 600's )
Trust me, there are some A340-600's of Lufthansa in the dessert right now, ready to be written of. They could have given it to Brussels airlines to destroy Brussels Airlines

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Matt » 14 Mar 2019, 15:26

Matt wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 15:24
BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:21
Brussels Airlines, a.k.a. Eurowings will get a shitload of used A330s it seems.
Not necessarily a problem tough. the used A330's are all maximum 10y old so it seems with quite efficient Trent 700 engines. Not only that: Brussels Airlines doesn't really has flights of 11+ hours. The A330's are perfect.
A350's is overkill for Brussels Airlines. The B787-8 however would fill in some niches for Brussels Airlines tough...

I would be more worried if Brussels Airlines got the old 767's or 777's of Austrian.... Or even worse: Lufthansa's written off A340's ( both 300 and 600's )
Trust me, there are some A340-600's of Lufthansa in the dessert right now, ready to be written of. They could have given it to Brussels airlines to destroy Brussels Airlines

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Conti764 » 14 Mar 2019, 18:25

Maybe I was a bit to quick with my reaction yesterday.

OS of course is in much bigger need of new equipment since their 767/777 are way older then SN's incoming A330-fleet, besides these fairly young birds are quite sufficient for SN ops...

And LH wanting to get rid of thirsty A340's seems logical as well. A replacement with A350 is the logical consequence then.

I am just hoping for some positive news for SN at BRU as well...

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by lumumba » 14 Mar 2019, 18:57

Matt wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 15:24
BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:21
Brussels Airlines, a.k.a. Eurowings will get a shitload of used A330s it seems.
Not necessarily a problem tough. the used A330's are all maximum 10y old so it seems with quite efficient Trent 700 engines. Not only that: Brussels Airlines doesn't really has flights of 11+ hours. The A330's are perfect.
A350's is overkill for Brussels Airlines. The B787-8 however would fill in some niches for Brussels Airlines tough...

I would be more worried if Brussels Airlines got the old 767's or 777's of Austrian.... Or even worse: Lufthansa's written A340's ( both 300 and 600's )
Trust me, there are some A340-600's of Lufthansa in the dessert right now, ready to be written of. They could have given it to Brussels airlines to destroy Brussels Airlines
I thought that the 346 would have been a perfect plane for Brussels Airlines it's true it consumes a lot but it can take a lot of cargo(payload)also perfect for their African market.
But I do not have the experience to judge it.
And it also depends on the lease price I suppose?
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by CTBke » 14 Mar 2019, 19:47

lumumba wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 18:57
Matt wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 15:24
BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 13:21
Brussels Airlines, a.k.a. Eurowings will get a shitload of used A330s it seems.
Not necessarily a problem tough. the used A330's are all maximum 10y old so it seems with quite efficient Trent 700 engines. Not only that: Brussels Airlines doesn't really has flights of 11+ hours. The A330's are perfect.
A350's is overkill for Brussels Airlines. The B787-8 however would fill in some niches for Brussels Airlines tough...

I would be more worried if Brussels Airlines got the old 767's or 777's of Austrian.... Or even worse: Lufthansa's written A340's ( both 300 and 600's )
Trust me, there are some A340-600's of Lufthansa in the dessert right now, ready to be written of. They could have given it to Brussels airlines to destroy Brussels Airlines
I thought that the 346 would have been a perfect plane for Brussels Airlines it's true it consumes a lot but it can take a lot of cargo(payload)also perfect for their African market.
But I do not have the experience to judge it.
And it also depends on the lease price I suppose?
It's the worst plane for SN ... remember the hifly they got last minute .. it got stuck on the runway cause it couldn't turn ... it's too long and some African destinations have the runway as taxiway where they have to make a full turn so in terms of planes this isn't the best plane for SN but the A330 still is
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Re: Brussels Airlines' fleet renewal

Post by Ansett » 14 Mar 2019, 23:04

BrightCedars wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 14:46
Somewhat reassuring news at https://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1536/Econom ... ines.dhtml stating that SN result is positive but of course shall improve.
I fear that SN's performance will never be good enough for LH. As far as I know EW has been losing money so far. So, if the consolidated EW/SN figures are positive, who is pulling EW out of the red ?

I'm really fed up with the lies of CS and his "kin".

Btw, I still wonder how LH got a 5* rating from Skytrax. It's just an average airline.

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