National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by SR20 » 12 Feb 2019, 18:56

traveller42 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 18:46

So does this mean flights will have to wait outside Belgian airspace until 2200 and then form a queue to land?
I guess there will be flow restrictions implemented in order to avoid such an accumulation of traffic !

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by traveller42 » 12 Feb 2019, 19:07

SR20 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 18:56
traveller42 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 18:46

So does this mean flights will have to wait outside Belgian airspace until 2200 and then form a queue to land?
I guess there will be flow restrictions implemented in order to avoid such an accumulation of traffic !
The Brussels Airport web site shows four arrivals between 2100 and 2200 that aren't cancelled and 6 after it.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 20:50

SN3788 from ACE (the flight I took two weeks ago to come back from holiday), OO-SNC (Magritte), STA 23:15, is diverted to CGN. Probably to operate one of the two flights scheduled for tomorrow.

The other aircraft diverting to CGN should be OO-SNA (Red Devils), SN3160 from MXP, STA 22:35.

As a reminder, SN operated two flights out of CGN (instead of BRU) tomorrow: SN3325 to Hurghada and SN3779 to Tenerife South.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by convair » 12 Feb 2019, 21:19

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12 Feb 2019, 16:59
Despite all the efforts made by the skeyes management, there is no certainty about the number of staff in a limited number of key posts. Therefore, skeyes is forced not to allow air traffic between Tuesday 12 Feb 10 PM local time and Wednesday 13 Feb 10 PM
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12 Feb 2019, 17:21
Seriously??
No certainty about the number of staff showing up tomorrow?
These guys deserve a gold medal!

Recruitment has to start: we are looking for:
- People who agree to work for 5000€ or more after tax
- 35 hours per week (steal a few each day as you gonna leave early)
- call sick as much as you wish, just advise your employer one hour before your shift starts. Don't bring a sick note, it's not needed if it's for one day: take it easy.
- expect good money each Sunday you work, extra hours for free each night you work (you can sleep at work, don't worry), extra money when you are recalled (but you don't have to answer your phone if you don't feel like working more than planned)
- you will have a lot of responsibilities but peaks last less than one hour each morning and each evening so there is good chance you are on break at that time. But don't worry we will never assess your performance and if you don't work properly, it's fine too.
BUT please say if you come to work on a strike day because you might annoy a few thousands of people who have nothing to do with what you are striking for.
We hope to have lots of candidates. Thank you
Quite surprising that their wonderfully innovative new name (Skeyes! :roll: ) has not succeeded to boost their motivation! 8-)

These guys' carelessness and contempt are a national disgrace!

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 21:50

As for the railways, ATC should have a minimum service level and striking agents should announce their intention to strike 72 hours in advance.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Kenlybe » 12 Feb 2019, 22:07

I find the fact that they start at 22:00 a disgrace. As a travel agent, I know we planned ahead in our company for the 13rd of February, we rebooked, sought alternatives, but now with the complete closure of Brussels Airport at 22:00 on 12 February, we have clients unable to depart on Ethiopian Airways and Aeroflot. A sad situation really…

I think if a strike is called it should be from midnight (after the last scheduled passenger flight of the day) until midnight the next day. Props to Ethiopian as well who personally called us to have us ask our clients to be at the airport earlier so they could try and leave before 22:00, unfortunately they had to come from MAN and it didn't work out and went straight to ADD.

It should have been clear a week ago what Skeyes would do, not a few hours before the strike starts. If you want to close Brussels Airport, fine, but anounce it in time.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by luchtzak » 12 Feb 2019, 22:17

Belgian air space below 24,500 feet, a few minutes past 22:00 (UTC +1), no more air traffic except a few aircraft heading to Luxembourg and Cologne, check Luxair LG4598 flying North of France to reach Luxembourg Airport.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 23:10

sn26567 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 20:50
SN3788 from ACE (the flight I took two weeks ago to come back from holiday), OO-SNC (Magritte), STA 23:15, is diverted to CGN. Probably to operate one of the two flights scheduled for tomorrow.

The other aircraft diverting to CGN should be OO-SNA (Red Devils), SN3160 from MXP, STA 22:35.
The two SN flights diverting to CGN (BEL56L from MXP, BEL91Y from ACE)
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 23:43

Ryanair FR6933 from Rabat to CRL and FR8076 from Marrakesh to CRL also diverted to CGN.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by luchtzak » 13 Feb 2019, 08:39

According to Eurocontrol, the closure of Belgian airspace below 24,500 feet has a knock-on effect on Amsterdam Schiphol.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Passenger » 13 Feb 2019, 08:44

sn26567 wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 21:50
As for the railways, ATC should have a minimum service level and striking agents should announce their intention to strike 72 hours in advance.
The aim of a strike is to cause the maximum of distress to passengers and the maximum of damage to the industry. Those trade union guys indeed can only be stopped from doing so by solid legislation: a legal "minimal service level" like with NMBS/SNCB/Infrabel. Or like in Portugese aviation.

In the past, regional airports in the south used to remain open for business during strikes (PS FGTB influence, probably). But now, with CRL and LGG also closed, the next federal government may well be willing to implement the "minimal service level".

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Stij » 13 Feb 2019, 08:59

Passenger wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 08:44
...the next federal government may well be willing to implement the "minimal service level".
The consequence of abuse of power...

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 13 Feb 2019, 11:31

Ethiopian Airlines on 13FEB19 operates 737 MAX 8 aircraft on Addis Ababa – Manchester nonstop sector, replacing 1-stop 787-8 via Brussels.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by C96C » 13 Feb 2019, 11:47

Brussels Airlines flight SN3779 is operated out of CGN by D-AEWJ from Eurowings!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sn3779

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 13 Feb 2019, 12:10

C96C wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 11:47
Brussels Airlines flight SN3779 is operated out of CGN by D-AEWJ from Eurowings!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sn3779
What are OO-SNA and OO-SNC doing in CGN then? No SN crews available?
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Bel33 » 13 Feb 2019, 14:45

I think SNA was delayed yesterday post 23:00... probably rerouted to CGN

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 13 Feb 2019, 15:18

OO-SNA and OO-SNC in Cologne/Bonn Airport

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 13 Feb 2019, 15:49

OO-SNC operating SN3325 CGN-HRG at this moment. The only SN aircraft flying now.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by airtrainer » 13 Feb 2019, 18:28

From what a friend told me, Etihad diverted to DUS...

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