National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by RoMax » 08 Feb 2019, 19:48

Jetter wrote:
08 Feb 2019, 19:33
Pro tip for SN staff: if you want to become a successful ‘national’ airline despite LH’s efforts to turn you into a low cost franchise you don’t go on strike for vague reasons! :|
SN staff will not strike (except maybe a few lost exceptions), the cancelations are because basically 'everyone else' is expected to strike with medium to very heavy impact expected (there are even talks about the entrance road to the airport being blocked and BRU itself is asking everyone to replan their travel arrangements).

When part of the flights was still planned, SN asked its staff for volunteers to help at the airport with all sorts of stuff from informing pax to loading luggage (one of the main reasons why even an accounting guy or whatever at B.house have a badge with airside access even though they don't need it for their job, is to be able to help in situations like that), all the required slots for volunteers were filled in no time and with buffers. I thinks that's far from a strike mentality! This is just force majeure and I'm sure pax will be more happy with their travel plans adapted today vs being uncertain about whatever might happen with the very likely consequence of chaos at the airport.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Jetter » 08 Feb 2019, 19:56

^^ Fair points. Let me rephrase: if people working in the Belgian aviation sector see the upside of having a succesfull national carrier they shouldn’t go on strike for vague reasons that have nothing to do with their employer.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by SR20 » 11 Feb 2019, 15:02

FedEx and ASL would cancel all their flights to/from LGG on the night from february 12th till 13th !
Anyone to confirm ?

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by jan_olieslagers » 11 Feb 2019, 15:44

having a succesfull national carrier
Belgium no longer has a national carrier. Neither has it had a succesful carrier, for many years now.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Stij » 11 Feb 2019, 15:46

Off topic... The excuse for this strike are the failed negotiations in the PRIVATE sector (actually the Unions left the negotiations) and who goes mainly on strike? The PUBLIC sector.

On topic... Mr. Descheemaeker, CEO of Brussels Airport, complains in the press that his company (and the rest of the economy) will loose a lot of money because of the strike. Not a word about the passengers who's plans are disrupted. We know where his thoughts are… not with his passengers. Probably also the reason I stood in line at security for 45min last Tuesday evening with only 2 scanning stations open. I made my flight, but couldn't have dinner at the Amo restaurant... one of Mr. Descheemaekers REAL customers… and where his thoughts probably are.

Welcome to my wonderful surreal country Belgium!

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P.S. Congratulations to SN, TUI... for at least organizing things as good as you can and avoiding chaos in 2 days.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sean1982 » 11 Feb 2019, 15:57

RoMax wrote:
08 Feb 2019, 19:48
Jetter wrote:
08 Feb 2019, 19:33
Pro tip for SN staff: if you want to become a successful ‘national’ airline despite LH’s efforts to turn you into a low cost franchise you don’t go on strike for vague reasons! :|
SN staff will not strike (except maybe a few lost exceptions), the cancelations are because basically 'everyone else' is expected to strike with medium to very heavy impact expected (there are even talks about the entrance road to the airport being blocked and BRU itself is asking everyone to replan their travel arrangements).

When part of the flights was still planned, SN asked its staff for volunteers to help at the airport with all sorts of stuff from informing pax to loading luggage (one of the main reasons why even an accounting guy or whatever at B.house have a badge with airside access even though they don't need it for their job, is to be able to help in situations like that), all the required slots for volunteers were filled in no time and with buffers. I thinks that's far from a strike mentality! This is just force majeure and I'm sure pax will be more happy with their travel plans adapted today vs being uncertain about whatever might happen with the very likely consequence of chaos at the airport.
Meanwhile TUI manages to operate a full schedule from alternate airports.

Im sorry but cancelling everything is the easy option

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 11 Feb 2019, 17:06

Stij wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 15:46
Mr. Descheemaeker, CEO of Brussels Airport, complains in the press that his company (and the rest of the economy) will loose a lot of money because of the strike.
The CEO of Brussels Airport is Arnaud Feist. Mr Descheemaeker is the politically appointed Chairman of the Board. And yes, his political views may differ from those of the real manager of the airport. But he is (fortunately) not in charge of the day-to-day operation of the airport.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by luchtzak » 11 Feb 2019, 17:28

sean1982 wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 15:57

Meanwhile TUI manages to operate a full schedule from alternate airports.

Im sorry but cancelling everything is the easy option
I congratulate TUI with this kind of operations, they are bringing holiday-goers and other passengers to their destination without much disturbance and on the same day.

I can also understand Brussels Airlines with their decision to cancel flights, they can rely on a bigger network to reroute and rebook passengers the day before or the day after. Besides, this airline relies more on business related traffic than TUI.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 11 Feb 2019, 17:41

sean1982 wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 15:57
I'm sorry but cancelling everything is the easy option
I was discussing with a Brussels Airlines spokesperson when the decision to cancel ALL the flights was taken. She said to me that it is easier for TUI, which has bases in neighbouring countries, to relocate its flights. Brussels Airlines has only one base, and when there is such an uncertainty about who will or will not be on strike at the airport of that base, the best way to have no uncertainty is to cancel every flight long enough in advance to allow all the concerned passengers to make alternative plans.
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and .. what about Ryanair ??

Post by evdpvwin » 11 Feb 2019, 17:45

Hello, Ryanair ??

Silence is NOT golden ! Until this moment not one single word of information has been diffused.
What about the flights in Brussels South Charleroi ?
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by TLspotting » 11 Feb 2019, 18:04

Maybe the alternative plans like when Brussels was shut down on 22 March 2016 was too expensive, without including the fleet based in Belgium outside Brussels to base them in foreign countries...
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by jan_olieslagers » 11 Feb 2019, 18:23

Brussels Airlines has only one base
Oh come on! You mean Düsseldorf, right? :mrgreen:

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by evdpvwin » 11 Feb 2019, 18:24

And what about ... Ryanair ?

100 % Silence ...

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 11 Feb 2019, 18:40

Etihad will come with a B777-300ER on 14 Feb, probably to pick up passengers stranded by the cancellation of its flight on 13 Feb.
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by luchtzak » 11 Feb 2019, 19:08

evdpvwin wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 18:24
And what about ... Ryanair ?

100 % Silence ...
Aviation24.be today contacted Ryanair if they will take measures on 13 February.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by SR20 » 11 Feb 2019, 19:12

CRL will be closed on 13 february !

https://www.dhnet.be/regions/charleroi/ ... 78f091a0af

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 11 Feb 2019, 20:14

evdpvwin wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 18:24
And what about ... Ryanair ?

100 % Silence ...
To avoid all problems, the management of BSCA decided to close CRL airport all day on 13 Feb. Ryanair problem solved!
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by sn26567 » 11 Feb 2019, 20:19

Skeyes will be limiting air traffic to 50% of the actual capacity on 13 Feb.

https://www.aviation24.be/air-traffic-c ... n-belgium/
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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by luchtzak » 11 Feb 2019, 20:35

sn26567 wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 20:14
evdpvwin wrote:
11 Feb 2019, 18:24
And what about ... Ryanair ?

100 % Silence ...
To avoid all problems, the management of BSCA decided to close CRL airport all day on 13 Feb. Ryanair problem solved!
The official Charleroi Airport knows less: Due to a major national strike on February 13, operations and access at the airport may be deeply affected. We advise all passengers to contact their airline and visit the websites of the airlines to get info about flight status.

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Re: National strike in Belgium on 13 February 2019

Post by Porkchop » 11 Feb 2019, 21:18

I think it's a bit ridiculous...

My flight PS148 is still scheduled 13/02 from BRU @05:50 in the morning. I have no idea if I should order parking for the +10 days I'm gone. I can just imagine: order long term parking, going there, flight is cancelled ... I have to drive out from the parking then which makes the ticket invalid.

Those stupid vakbonden are causing me so much personal stress and now I should gamble with a ~€120 parking ticket... :-x

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