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Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 02 Jan 2019, 23:52

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Eurowings is mulling setting up a long-haul base out of Frankfurt, however, nothing is decided.

Currently, Eurowings flies long-haul from Dusseldorf and Munich.

In other news, Eurowings took delivery of four A319s, serials 3436, 4713, 3660 and 3452, leased from Czech Airlines.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by convair » 03 Jan 2019, 15:23

What could be the impact for SN?
Christina Förster seems to be getting more weight (no pun intended!) within the EW group; it could be a good omen. How is she perceived by the SN people?

For Oliver Wagner, it's hard to see this move as a promotion. Lateral promotion?

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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convair wrote:
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Christina Förster seems to be getting more weight (no pun intended!) within the EW group; it could be a good omen. How is she perceived by the SN people?
From what I hear (SN insiders, please confirm), Christina Förster is generally appreciated within SN staff. SN gaining more weight on the long-haul market is a sign of confidence, not only in SN, but also in her leadership. Even if it means that she will have less say on the short-haul market.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 03 Jan 2019, 18:32

Eurowings plans to operate A319 flights from Mostar to Dusseldorf and Stuttgart, effective May and June 2019, respectively, replacing the Q400.
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Eurowings to start new A319 service from Stuttgart to Timisoara on 03 June 2019.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jan 2019, 11:23

Eurowings to add its first A321, serial 3504, in April 2019, followed by four more, serials 1988, 1994, 5126, and 5133.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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sn26567 wrote:
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Eurowings to add its first A321, serial 3504, in April 2019, followed by four more, serials 1988, 1994, 5126, and 5133.
These are former Lauda/Laudamotion aircraft, according to the unofficial LH Group fleet site.

Some members here have expressed the wish to see SN acquire (on lease of course ;) ) some of them. SN overtaken by mother EW?

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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convair wrote:
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Some members here have expressed the wish to see SN acquire (on lease of course ;) ) some of them. SN overtaken by mother EW?
For SN it would have been a different type of A321: the LR version, to serve some destinations in North America and Africa.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 25 Jan 2019, 19:31

Eurowings moves forward planned service launch on Berlin Tegel – Munich to 01 May 2019. A Germanwings A319will be operating the service. In competition with Lufthansa? :?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... to-munich/
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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sn26567 wrote:
25 Jan 2019, 19:31
Eurowings moves forward planned service launch on Berlin Tegel – Munich to 01 May 2019. A Germanwings A319will be operating the service. In competition with Lufthansa? :?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... to-munich/
or just a cheaper alternative for travelers ;-)
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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Eurowings plans to offer Palma Mallorca – Zurich service, operated by Eurowings Europe (Austria), with A320, effective 01 April 2019.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

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sn26567 wrote:
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Eurowings plans to offer Palma Mallorca – Zurich service, operated by Eurowings Europe (Austria), with A320, effective 01 April 2019.
Smack in Edelweiss' territory! Does it make sense? Or is EW going to absorb them "as well"? :?

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 02 Feb 2019, 21:21

Lufthansa Group reportedly intends to sell LGW (which a.o. operates Q400 flights for Eurowings) to Zeitfracht (Germany).
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 03 Feb 2019, 17:45

Recently Eurowings expanded its long-haul base at Munich. They seem to have second thoughts about this expansion: from Summer 2019, the number of intercontinental destinations from MUC is reduced from 10 to 6: Cancun, Havana, Mauritius, Montego Bay, Punta Cana, Varadero.

http://www.airliners.de/eurowings-muenc ... ecke/48596

A decision of the long-haul competence centre in Brussels? :)
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Ansett » 04 Feb 2019, 03:03

Too much, too fast, like Norwegian (imho). And consequently, loosing (a lot of ) money ?

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Ansett » 08 Feb 2019, 18:07

I only had time now to read the article in the link above. Interesting. Without going into details : former EW manager Müller is quoted saying : "Es sei schlicht "sehr problematisch, Interkont-Dienste nur auf Basis von Point-to-Point-Verbindungen anzubieten". Or : it is simply very problematic to offer long-haul flights on the basis of point-to-point flights !

If I remember well, CS and CF said SN would offer point-to-point flights only. And CF added later, there will be long-haul expansion for SN at BRU if there is a market.

Conclusion : since it is very difficult to offer long-haul services without feeder flights (says Müller), there will be no long-haul expansion for SN at BRU. Well, we knew that, didn't we ? It's now 95 % confirmed by what Müller said about EW at Munich.

CF is very good at making promises she knows will not be kept, and at sugaring the bitter pill of SN integration into EW with a new iconic livery for SN.

We'll see how long it will take for EW to make a profit.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Passenger » 10 Feb 2019, 13:23

Ansett wrote:
08 Feb 2019, 18:07
I only had time now to read the article in the link above. Interesting. Without going into details : former EW manager Müller is quoted saying : "Es sei schlicht "sehr problematisch, Interkont-Dienste nur auf Basis von Point-to-Point-Verbindungen anzubieten". Or : it is simply very problematic to offer long-haul flights on the basis of point-to-point flights!
Maybe you should read it again. And not only what you think that is written or what you would like that is written. But what is really written. Just one example: you forgot what followed after your above quote = "Ein großes Feeder-System habe Eurowings für München nicht aufgebaut".

That's not "Long haul point-to-point is very problematic". It says that Eurowings has established feeders to Düsseldorf, but not to Munich or Frankfurt. So Eurowings uses feeders to/from Düsseldorf, whilst Lufthansa uses Frankfurt (and Münich) as a hub.

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If I remember well, CS and CF said SN would offer point-to-point flights only. And CF added later, there will be long-haul expansion for SN at BRU if there is a market.

Conclusion : since it is very difficult to offer long-haul services without feeder flights (says Müller), there will be no long-haul expansion for SN at BRU. Well, we knew that, didn't we ? It's now 95 % confirmed by what Müller said about EW at Munich.

CF is very good at making promises she knows will not be kept, and at sugaring the bitter pill of SN integration into EW with a new iconic livery for SN.

We'll see how long it will take for EW to make a profit.
Obviously that's a wrong conclusion because you didn't understood the article. So let me recap it in brief:
1. Eurowings = Düsseldorf
2. Lufthansa = Frankfurt and Münich
3. Düsseldorf = capital of North-Rhein Westfalia = 18 mio inhabitants. A solid base for point-point, specially when some feeder flights can be added.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Ansett » 12 Feb 2019, 06:27

Of course, I understood the article. But you are an LH agent who knows it all much better (as Always). No further comment. Have a nice day (if you can).

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 12 Feb 2019, 21:19

Eurowings plans to offer scheduled charters to Santa Clara (Cuba), with A330-200 from both Dusseldorf and Munich, beginning in late March 2019. Given that the Munich schedule was reduced to 6 destinations (see post above), will Havana or Varadero be abandoned?
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