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Even in their flight status colors they're proud to show the Belgian flag! ;)

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Surinam Airways, who was Air Belgium's first ACMI client, will use an EuroAtlantic B767-300ER for Saturday's PY-993/PY-994 AMS-PBM-AMS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tkt

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Passenger wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:38 Surinam Airways, who was Air Belgium's first ACMI client, will use an EuroAtlantic B767-300ER for Saturday's PY-993/PY-994 AMS-PBM-AMS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tkt
And?

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sean1982 wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:54
Passenger wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:38 Surinam Airways, who was Air Belgium's first ACMI client, will use an EuroAtlantic B767-300ER for Saturday's PY-993/PY-994 AMS-PBM-AMS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tkt
And?
Cheaper, older, less comfortable, ...
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sn26567 wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:59
Passenger wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:38 Surinam Airways, who was Air Belgium's first ACMI client, will use an EuroAtlantic B767-300ER for Saturday's PY-993/PY-994 AMS-PBM-AMS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tkt
Cheaper, older, less comfortable, ...
When three of your four aircraft are on the ground, and when the competition has to send their aircraft from Lisbon to Amsterdam (flying time LIS-AMS is 3 hours one way), you should be able to offer Surinam Airways a better quote.

(Or perhaps Air Belgium has other charters this weekend.)

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Better to keep the A/C on the ground than losing money.

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Passenger wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 21:03
sn26567 wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:59
Passenger wrote: 28 Sep 2018, 18:38 Surinam Airways, who was Air Belgium's first ACMI client, will use an EuroAtlantic B767-300ER for Saturday's PY-993/PY-994 AMS-PBM-AMS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tkt
Cheaper, older, less comfortable, ...
When three of your four aircraft are on the ground, and when the competition has to send their aircraft from Lisbon to Amsterdam (flying time LIS-AMS is 3 hours one way), you should be able to offer Surinam Airways a better quote.

(Or perhaps Air Belgium has other charters this weekend.)
Maybe AB didnt have a purser or captain out of rest? I saw the tender surinam put out and it was for 3 PBM rotations

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I remember a while ago someome depicted the poor performance of ABB while flying from Paris to Lagos...with a screenshot attached to demonstrate how ABB was bad in terms of on-time departure...
Well take a look at their Abu-Dhabi operation for British Airways...not that bad!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb

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It doesn't take an MBA to understand that competing against well established carriers in one of the most competitive markets with a new brand, bad shedule, secundary airport, small marketing budget while relying on the patience of your investment partners is a short term and short lived strategy.

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Desert Rat wrote: 30 Sep 2018, 22:20 I remember a while ago someome depicted the poor performance of ABB while flying from Paris to Lagos...with a screenshot attached to demonstrate how ABB was bad in terms of on-time departure...
Well take a look at their Abu-Dhabi operation for British Airways...not that bad!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/oo-abb
And remember STD is push-back time, whilst ATD is take-off time.

Moreover, any delay listed in these tables is meaningless anyway since there is no indication of their cause.

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convair wrote: 01 Oct 2018, 16:41
And remember STD is push-back time, whilst ATD is take-off time.

Moreover, any delay listed in these tables is meaningless anyway since there is no indication of their cause.
STD = Scheduled Time of Departure
ATD = Actual Time of Departure

;)

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Thanks for the heads-up, but what I meant was that those delays in Paris weren't code fourty!

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AB is going to fly for BA from Heathrow to Dubai as from 1/2 November until 14/15 December 2018.

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teddybAIR wrote: 01 Oct 2018, 14:46 It doesn't take an MBA to understand that competing against well established carriers in one of the most competitive markets with a new brand, bad shedule, secundary airport, small marketing budget while relying on the patience of your investment partners is a short term and short lived strategy.
Heard from a member of the management: "There's room for everybody on the market".

For the moment, let's say they know what they're doing. Time will tell us if Air Belgium is a success or a fail.

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Shonix wrote: 04 Oct 2018, 08:59Heard from a member of the management: "There's room for everybody on the market".
I can't really agree. Maybe ask the management of Primera Air, VLM Antwerp... or even Air Berlin? ;)
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Vic Diesel wrote: 04 Oct 2018, 11:47
Shonix wrote: 04 Oct 2018, 08:59Heard from a member of the management: "There's room for everybody on the market".
I can't really agree. Maybe ask the management of Primera Air, VLM Antwerp... or even Air Berlin? ;)
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ABA gone to London Heathrow from Brussels, ABB is going soon to Lisbon Portela from Heathrow, going to TAP Technics
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:arrow: ABB Little "C" check I heard....
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New article on L'Avenir, AB in danger but obvious due to recent problems...

https://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20181017 ... 1539793291
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