[Cancelled] Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

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[Cancelled] Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Ansett » 21 Aug 2018, 16:37

Primera Air to fly from BRU to EWR, IAD and BOS. YES !!!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/prim ... ing-787-9/

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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by sn26567 » 21 Aug 2018, 16:47

Ansett wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 16:37
Primera Air to fly from BRU to EWR, IAD and BOS. YES !!!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/prim ... ing-787-9/
YES !!! With a 737 MAX 9 and a 30-in seat pitch? :?
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Post by Atlantis » 21 Aug 2018, 17:24

On this way you can see how Brussels Airlines, or better saying due to the psychopath behavior of mother Lufthansa, is always too late.

Finally we will have the Boston flight back at BRU, a LCC will execute it on sharp prices. It will be even more difficult for SN to start it up.

It's Lufthansa who decide where SN will fly and with which material. While they focus on long haul for Eurowings on German soil with Belgian registered planes, an other new player will fly to Boston.

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Post by SabenaForever » 21 Aug 2018, 17:27

Ansett wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 16:37
Primera Air to fly from BRU to EWR, IAD and BOS. YES !!!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/prim ... ing-787-9/
Wel extra flights are allways good... But i am not a fan. 8 hours in a 739 with a 30’’ pitch :roll: if you count all the extra’s... the price is the same than SN, DL and UA. But ok there will a market for it.

I noticed that all the flights leave BRU in the early evening.

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Post by KriVa » 21 Aug 2018, 17:29

Seems pretty much like the exact same passenger experience one could have on AA’s 757 a few years ago.
I flew that one to JFK. It wasn’t too bad, honestly.
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Post by 737MAX » 21 Aug 2018, 17:32

SabenaForever wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 17:27
Ansett wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 16:37
Primera Air to fly from BRU to EWR, IAD and BOS. YES !!!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/prim ... ing-787-9/
Wel extra flights are allways good... But i am not a fan. 8 hours in a 739 with a 30’’ pitch :roll: if you count all the extra’s... the price is the same than SN, DL and UA. But ok there will a market for it.

I noticed that all the flights leave BRU in the early evening.

Greetz
The 737 MAX is quite comfortable, actually. Give me that over an old & noisy 757...

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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by 737MAX » 21 Aug 2018, 17:49

Ansett wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 16:37
Primera Air to fly from BRU to EWR, IAD and BOS. YES !!!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/prim ... ing-787-9/
Btw, it seems like the plane(s) will be based in BRU?
Anyone has more info about that?

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Post by sdbelgium » 21 Aug 2018, 17:51

The timings would suggest a BRU based aircraft, however it could be part of a W pattern from STN, eg STN-EWR-BRU-EWR-BRU-STN.

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Post by sn26567 » 21 Aug 2018, 17:53

KriVa wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 17:29
Seems pretty much like the exact same passenger experience one could have on AA’s 757 a few years ago.
I flew that one to JFK. It wasn’t too bad, honestly.
But I'm sure you had more than a 30-in pitch on the 757. :D
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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by brabel » 21 Aug 2018, 17:55

Would have preferred SN to fly to Boston...

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Post by 737MAX » 21 Aug 2018, 18:06

Seems like "someone" edited my previous post to something completely different from what I originally wrote.
Of course by removing the "source" of the copy/paste article Aviation24 "created" on their homepage (from USA today).

AFAIK there is no official info from Primera Air about the seat pitch in their new 737 MAX 9.
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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Atlantis » 21 Aug 2018, 18:09

The flights are indeed, late afternoon, or evening flights. This create an important big evening wave in long haul flights besides Dubai, Tokio, Addis Abeba, Kigali.

Hopefully SN can place also a few long hauls in the evening in the future....

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by convair » 21 Aug 2018, 18:36

Atlantis wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 18:09
The flights are indeed, late afternoon, or evening flights. This create an important big evening wave in long haul flights besides Dubai, Tokio, Addis Abeba, Kigali.

Hopefully SN can place also a few long hauls in the evening in the future....
These are the evening flights many of us here have been suggesting for quite some time, but Carsten Spohr is deaf and blind. Does he still think many pax will go through Frankfurt on their way to Boston?

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Re: BRU Summer 2019: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Ansett » 21 Aug 2018, 18:51

sn26567 wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 16:47
Ansett wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 16:37
Primera Air to fly from BRU to EWR, IAD and BOS. YES !!!

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/prim ... ing-787-9/
YES !!! With a 737 MAX 9 and a 30-in seat pitch? :?
If you book early and are prepared to pay extra, you will get a 32 or even 36inches seat pitch. I'm prepared to bet that when they see that seats with extra leg room are in high demand, they will add more, just like Norwegian has started doing it with its Premium seats. And I'm not sure that eight hours in a 737 MAX 9 will be worse than 12 hours in a 777 with ten pax in each row. Of course, it may end up costing the same as with SN, UA or DL, but Primera will give us what Convair has pertinently recalled :
convair wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 18:36
Atlantis wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 18:09
The flights are indeed, late afternoon, or evening flights. This create an important big evening wave in long haul flights besides Dubai, Tokio, Addis Abeba, Kigali.

Hopefully SN can place also a few long hauls in the evening in the future....
These are the evening flights many of us here have been suggesting for quite some time, but Carsten Spohr is deaf and blind. Does he still think many pax will go through Frankfurt on their way to Boston?

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by SabenaForever » 21 Aug 2018, 19:02

Off topic:

AA is expanding in Europe... But No BRU!

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by b720 » 21 Aug 2018, 19:05

SN should have started NYC (JFK or EWR)evening flights a while ago..
Yet another lost opportunity..

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 21 Aug 2018, 19:18

Another opportunity has been missed by Norwegian: they could have pre-empted Primera's flights by launching their own flights by B787-9.
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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by Atlantis » 21 Aug 2018, 19:25

sn26567 wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 19:18
Another opportunity has been missed by Norwegian: they could have pre-empted Primera's flights by launching their own flights by B787-9.
Indeed, Norwegian was looking at BRU but they didn't want to start up in the near future. They have or had BRU in the scope in a few years. But aviation is sth what is happening now, especially for LCC.
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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by skumfiduse » 21 Aug 2018, 20:06

I hope Primera's BRU-flights will be more successfull than their BHX-operations. They were short-lived: one summer season only. Let's hope their 737's will be delivered in time to start with and Primera can make it through the end of the season at Brussels.

Given Primera's product offer, frequencies and schedules, they're rather targetting the leisure traveller who is willing to pay for extra's according to his needs and preferences. This looks more of a challenge to our Icelandic friends than the established network carriers with all the benefits a traveller is willing to pay for.

I don't agree with "missed opportunities for SN". At this point, I believe SN is more in the need of a sustainable, stable and profitable long-haul network - as far as possible. Let's not forget the fleet renewal is a huge operation for SN. Also, opening a route to BOS and starting an evening rotation to NYC might not just be the best opportunities for SN.

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Re: Primera Air to launch three U.S. routes from Brussels in 2019

Post by TLspotting » 21 Aug 2018, 20:23

sn26567 wrote:
21 Aug 2018, 19:18
Another opportunity has been missed by Norwegian: they could have pre-empted Primera's flights by launching their own flights by B787-9.
Indeed, but Norwegian is not totally lost, the East Coast is not only JFK,EWR,BOS and IAD so they do have many opportunities left.

How about West Coast, still empty from Brussels...?

Any news for Norwegian ?

But also to create a Belgian subsidiary would have been long to receive an AOG (AB, VLM,...)
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