Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Bapt' wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 09:55 Ryanair flight 4535 from BGY to EIN diverted to LGG yesterday evening
Any special reason?
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I did not receive the information 😕

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sn26567 wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 11:25
Bapt' wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 09:55 Ryanair flight 4535 from BGY to EIN diverted to LGG yesterday evening
Any special reason?

Guess they saw on arrival that the lights had been switched off.

EHEH/EIN closes the shop at 23:00 local.

Flight was planned to leave BGY at 19:05 but the actual departure was delayed till 21:29.
So the STA of 20:45 was somewhat compromised.

Delay may have been technical.
EI-EBD flew TLV-BGY and arrived at 17:04 (instead of STA 16:15).
Rather unusual for FR to linger on turnarounds so I guess some Mx was planned during these 3 hours at BGY and it tool longer than anticipated.
??

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According to FR24, the aircraft landed at EBLG at about 22:45LT.
The planned FR4536 EIN-BGY has been cancelled but as the aircraft took off again from LGG only at 04:27, does that mean that the Pax have been bussed from EIN to LGG?

Anyhow, empty or not the aircraft landed back at BGY at 05:30.
If Pax were on board, the trumpets of glory may have been useful to wake them up and get them off.
OK, 7 hours later than planned but these days a good Ryanair is a flight that leaves from an airport near you and brings you where you intended to go and at about the right time (per la prima colazione ... :lol: ).

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 16:50 According to FR24, the aircraft landed at EBLG at about 22:45LT.
The planned FR4536 EIN-BGY has been cancelled but as the aircraft took off again from LGG only at 04:27, does that mean that the Pax have been bussed from EIN to LGG?
If you look at the time and the region when they diverted from their planned route, and you compare that to the route from the previous FR4535, they would have landed in Eindhoven around 22h45 LT too. So before the night curfew there.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#1d59067a

... now compare the above diverted flight to this one, as from Cologne:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#1d5252ba

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Passenger wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 17:07
Homo Aeroportus wrote: 02 Aug 2018, 16:50 According to FR24, the aircraft landed at EBLG at about 22:45LT.
The planned FR4536 EIN-BGY has been cancelled but as the aircraft took off again from LGG only at 04:27, does that mean that the Pax have been bussed from EIN to LGG?
If you look at the time and the region when they diverted from their planned route, and you compare that to the route from the previous FR4535, they would have landed in Eindhoven around 22h45 LT too. So before the night curfew there.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#1d59067a

... now compare the above diverted flight to this one, as from Cologne:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#1d5252ba

True they could have landed at EHEH at about the same time as EBLG, i.e. 22:45LT hence before the closing.
But they also had to take off as FR4536 and return to BGY. Impossible before the curfew. And they needed the machine for the next morning service out of BGY.

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Trident, normally on its way to Las Palmas, seems to be returning home after circling above Olen/Herentals.

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Looks like OO-SNA might have encountered some problem when taking off

It has landed now after passing over Brussels

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plumemoth wrote: 04 Aug 2018, 15:24 Looks like OO-SNA might have encountered some problem when taking off

It has landed now after passing over Brussels
Bird strike

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... rd-strike/

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EBBR troubles.JPG
Bad weather is causing troubles for arriving planes @EBBR + a few (RYR, TUI, SN, ...) diversions to EBLG

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Finnair AY1546 (Embraer 190 OH-LKN oneworld livery) from Brussels to Helsinki declared an emergency (squawk 7700) shortly after taking off from Brussels, but eventually continued flying to destination with on-time arrival.

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Copy/paste from a Dutch forum:

"...Due to some communication failure / computer problems at ATC, entry into Dutch airspace is limited... Many aircraft towards AMS are circling over Belgium and the North Sea. Some diverting already... No take-offs since 12:40L...

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TAY801 OE-IFD LGG-PVG returning to LGG

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Is there something going on at EBBR, on Apron 2 North, stand 233 or 237, near the B Pier?

At around 1530LT, FR24 shows Fire019-027-308 and -026. Later arrived Fire001 and 507.
Signals come and go intermittently but most are still there at 1645LT.

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JVSpotter wrote: 17 Aug 2018, 12:24 TAY801 OE-IFD LGG-PVG returning to LGG
https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/liege/ ... id=9997203

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bc7b753&opt=0

https://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20180817 ... a-deplorer

A real panic apparently, for no reason, but panic anyway
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The flight deck clearly overreacted!
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Acid-drop wrote: 17 Aug 2018, 22:54
JVSpotter wrote: 17 Aug 2018, 12:24 TAY801 OE-IFD LGG-PVG returning to LGG
https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/liege/ ... id=9997203

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bc7b753&opt=0

https://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20180817 ... a-deplorer

A real panic apparently, for no reason, but panic anyway
I didn't see "panic" being reported and I doubt the crew did panic.

After all they know well what happened to their colleagues flying UPS 6 out of DXB in 2010.
These guys didn't panic when there was a fire on board, they just died.

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Well said, H.A. : better to be safe than be sorry. As aviators get drilled into the bottom of their brain.
Or, to quote a famous mayor of Antwerp: "Liever blode Kamiel dan dode Kamiel" :)

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There's no such thing as overreacting when it comes to a possible fire onboard.
SWR111: fire detected at 2110, aircraft crashed at 2131.
UPS6: Fire detected at 1515, aircraft crashed at 1542.
Valujet 592: Fire detected at 1410, aircraft crashed at 1413.

Things can go south extremely quickly when a fire takes hold.
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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 18 Aug 2018, 09:56
Acid-drop wrote: 17 Aug 2018, 22:54
JVSpotter wrote: 17 Aug 2018, 12:24 TAY801 OE-IFD LGG-PVG returning to LGG
https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/liege/ ... id=9997203

http://avherald.com/h?article=4bc7b753&opt=0

https://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20180817 ... a-deplorer

A real panic apparently, for no reason, but panic anyway
I didn't see "panic" being reported and I doubt the crew did panic.

After all they know well what happened to their colleagues flying UPS 6 out of DXB in 2010.
These guys didn't panic when there was a fire on board, they just died.
And meanwhile, the aircraft is well over China right now:
https://www.flightradar24.com/TAY801/1d8b2a67

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