Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Yesterday Brussels Airlines flight SN1137 BRU-AHU A320 OO-SNB (Tintin) returned to base after making U-turn at FL210 (an altitude that was never exceeded) near Paris. It was able to take off again to its final destination Al Hoceima after an hour on the ground. Any idea of the reason?
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DIBO wrote: 01 May 2018, 18:27 VO147 ANR-Zurich limited birdstrike on take off, returned to land.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4b83349c&opt=0

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Passenger wrote: 06 May 2018, 12:03
DIBO wrote: 01 May 2018, 18:27 VO147 ANR-Zurich limited birdstrike on take off, returned to land.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4b83349c&opt=0
Avherald: "A bird hit the windshield of the aircraft"
One comment: "Theory of relativity: the aircraft hit a bird" :lol:
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Passenger wrote: 01 May 2018, 21:53Thus: OO-JEM seems to be AOG at Faro
OO-JEM again AOG?? Departed OST, reaching 30000ft, made a tear-drop U-turn over northern France, diverting to BRU. This is the OST-BCN-ANR & back combo flight, so impacting ANR & OST schedules to/from BCN.
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DIBO wrote: 06 May 2018, 20:09
Passenger wrote: 01 May 2018, 21:53Thus: OO-JEM seems to be AOG at Faro
OO-JEM again AOG?? Departed OST, reaching 30000ft, made a tear-drop U-turn over northern France, diverting to BRU. This is the OST-BCN-ANR & back combo flight, so impacting ANR & OST schedules to/from BCN.
OO-JEM took off from BRU to Barcelona after three hours on the ground:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... m#11490aa2

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Brussels Airport fire brigade refuses to gas 20,000 chicks, but is forced by animal welfare

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/bruss ... l-welfare/

First: Chicks to Kinshasa? Why can't they farm their own chickens?
Second: why kill them? Can't you re-use them in Belgium?

What a waste and what a shame ...

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First: Chicks to Kinshasa? Why can't they farm their own chickens?
I see only one answer to that, but it is not a politically correct one...
Second: why kill them? Can't you re-use them in Belgium?
As I heard on the radio news, some had already died (from hunger/thirst/suffocation) and, as these poor creatures must have been bred in a near-industrial environment they must all have been very much alike, meaning death was not far for the rest anyway. I suppose it was the least unfortunate to prefer the short pain.
What a waste and what a shame ...
There I can only agree. Luckily this is not a common occurrence, at the contrary.

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Anyone has an idea what happened with the ASL Airlines HA-KAD yesterday?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... /#114b24da

Today I saw him appearing 5min on the radar, with a strange looking movement pattern (W form) on tarmac (did not take a printscreen unfortunately).

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I wouldn't really call that an abnormality: The FR24 replay linked above seems an awful lot like a test flight, something TAY birds often do out of BRU.
The erratic movement on FR24 also wouldn't be anything to worry about, chances are likely that the plane didn't even move in reality, but was just sitting on the apron with its transponder on. If that happens for quite some time, FR24 tends to get a little confused. (also because of GPS reception etc.)
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KriVa wrote: 08 May 2018, 14:07 I wouldn't really call that an abnormality: The FR24 replay linked above seems an awful lot like a test flight, something TAY birds often do out of BRU.
The erratic movement on FR24 also wouldn't be anything to worry about, chances are likely that the plane didn't even move in reality, but was just sitting on the apron with its transponder on. If that happens for quite some time, FR24 tends to get a little confused. (also because of GPS reception etc.)
Callsign was FAH734T. 737-400 test?

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KriVa wrote: 08 May 2018, 14:07 I wouldn't really call that an abnormality: The FR24 replay linked above seems an awful lot like a test flight, something TAY birds often do out of BRU.
The erratic movement on FR24 also wouldn't be anything to worry about, chances are likely that the plane didn't even move in reality, but was just sitting on the apron with its transponder on. If that happens for quite some time, FR24 tends to get a little confused. (also because of GPS reception etc.)
Ok, Thank you very much. I'm still quite new around here, and seems I can't make up the difference yet between test flights and possible abnormalities ;) Lesson learned! :)

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No problem at all!
First of all, welcome to Aviation24!
It could well have been a Return to Base as well, it’s hard to judge. This is just my experience speaking ;-)
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Apparently (FR24), SN285 (SFX) was descending to ABJ when it was diverted to Accra yesterday.
I don't know if the aircraft (the youngest in SN l/h fleet) is AOG.
Does anyone have details?

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convair wrote: 09 May 2018, 15:09 Apparently (FR24), SN285 (SFX) was descending to ABJ when it was diverted to Accra yesterday.
I don't know if the aircraft (the youngest in SN l/h fleet) is AOG.
Does anyone have details?
Flight SN 1285 will arrive from Accra tomorrow morning @ 6.20 AM

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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Do you know why it skipped ABJ yesterday?

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DIBO wrote: 25 Apr 2018, 00:00
luchtzak wrote: 24 Apr 2018, 20:49 A near-miss near Leuven?
certainly a loss of separation east of Leuven
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[rumour mode]
AEA1172 took off 07R - CIV7J departure - moderate rate of climb - right turn to CIV at 8 DME BUB - reaching FL70 briefly descended @1200fpm
DLH4Y follows shortly after from 07R - SPI 5J dept. - good rate of climb - right turn REMBA at 5 DME BUB - reducing rate of climb/leveling off around FL75 before continuing the climb
[/rumour mode]
Press release AAIU - in Dutch:
Op 23 februari zijn 2 vliegtuigen elkaar dichter dan de voorgeschreven minimumafstand genaderd (loss of separation), ten zuidoosten van Leuven. Het incident gebeurde op Flight Level 70 (op een hoogte van ongeveer 2 km). De beide vliegtuigen waren opgestegen vanop piste 07R op Brussels Airport en zijn elkaar horizontaal tot op ongeveer 1,3 nautische mijl genaderd, met een hoogteverschil van 684 voet, terwijl dit normaal minimum 1000 voet moet zijn. Dit incident is onmiddellijk gemeld aan de Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU(Be)), die een onafhankelijk onderzoek gestart is. Ter herinnering: het onderzoek dat door de AAIU(Be) wordt uitgevoerd is een veiligheidsonderzoek dat als doel heeft aanbevelingen voor te leggen om het veiligheidsniveau van de luchtvaart te verhogen en te vermijden dat gelijkaardige incidenten of ongevallen in de toekomst kunnen gebeuren. Het onderzoek is niet bedoeld om fouten aan te duiden of eventuele administratieve, burgerlijke of strafrechtelijke verantwoordelijkheden te bepalen. Om de noodzakelijke aanbevelingen te definiëren na een ongeval, of ernstig incident zal AAIU(Be) informatie en verschillende inlichtingen (technisch, meteorologisch en getuigenissen, …) verzamelen en analyseren. Na analyse publiceert het onderzoeksorgaan een eindeverslag met zijn conclusies over de oorzaken of factoren die dit incident konden veroorzaken. Het verslag en de veiligheidsaanbevelingen worden nadien aan het Directoraat-Generaal Luchtvaart en andere betrokken instanties bezorgd.

Press release AAIU - in French:
Le 23 février dernier, une perte de séparation a eu lieu entre deux avions au sud-est de Louvain, au FL 70 (soit à une hauteur de +- 2 km). Les deux avions avaient décollé de la piste 07R de Bruxelles-National et se sont approchés jusqu’à 1,3 milles nautiques horizontalement, et à une différence de hauteur de 684 pieds, là où les minimas sont normalement de 1000 pieds. Cet incident a été immédiatement signalé à la Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU(Be)) qui a ouvert une enquête indépendante. Pour rappel, il s’agit d’une enquête de sécurité qui vise à formuler des recommandations afin d'augmenter le niveau de sécurité du transport aérien et de prévenir à l'avenir de tels accidents ou incidents. Cette enquête n’a pas pour objet de déterminer d’éventuelles fautes commises ni les éventuelles responsabilités administratives, civiles ou pénales. Afin de pouvoir définir les recommandations nécessaires après un accident ou incident sérieux, l'AAIU(Be) collecte et analyse différents renseignements (techniques, météorologiques, rapportés par des témoins, etc.). Après cette analyse, l’organe d’enquête publie un rapport final contenant ses conclusions quant aux causes ou facteurs qui auraient pu occasionner l’incident en question. Le rapport d'enquête ainsi que les éventuelles recommandations seront transmis à la Direction générale Transport aérien ainsi qu'aux entités concernées par cet incident.

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Fog closed ANR for incoming flights the first morning hours. The incoming TUIFly Nador nightflight diverted to BRU at 6 am after 2 holdings at Nicky VOR. The E190 repositioned to ANR for the Palma flight with about 2hrs delay.

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Tail strike OO-JAY (TUI 737-800) at Marrakech on 2nd May 2018.
I have also posted it in the topic "TUI Airlines 2018":
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=62774&start=140#p367912

http://avherald.com/h?article=4b8e78bd&opt=0

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TUI's E190 flight TB6223 out of ANR to Nador Saturday evening (& return-flight Sunday morning) was cancelled and replaced by flight out of ... Brussels? (South??)

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2018

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LOT8175 (Nordica) TLL-BRU CRJ-900 declaring emergency....
Going to CPH I think... maybe

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