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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by sn26567 » 15 Feb 2018, 20:56

DAT2527 wrote:
15 Feb 2018, 20:33
Were is the news of Rickard coming from?
Travel Magazine.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by saratoga » 16 Feb 2018, 10:50

So they got recently all their AOC’s and it is already a sinking ship????

Tell me i am wrong!!!

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by CTBke » 16 Feb 2018, 16:00

crew1990 wrote:
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Earlier someone say that during peak season, SN would lease an A320 from another company, I wonder if it cold be from VLM?
if they still have them (aren't they going to Condor instead ?), could be Titan again like last year
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Boeing767copilot » 16 Feb 2018, 19:21

The Brussels division from VLM appears to have been sold to a Dutch investor, including 2 A320's ex TCAB. :o

https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 83403.html

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by sn26567 » 16 Feb 2018, 20:46

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16 Feb 2018, 19:21
The Brussels division from VLM appears to have been sold to a Dutch investor, including 2 A320's ex TCAB. :o

https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 83403.html
Another paint work needed on these aircraft after barely 2 months...

And who is that Dutch investor? Harm Prins?
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by FLYAIR10 » 16 Feb 2018, 20:48

he Brussels division from VLM appears to have been sold to a Dutch investor, including 2 A320's ex TCAB.

https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 83403.html
So, that means we have once again a 'new' airline in Belgium,next to SN,TB,AB and VG.
Exciting times in the Belgian aviation world... 8-)

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by sn26567 » 16 Feb 2018, 21:10

The article says that the new investor will concentrate on A320 charter flights, like VLM was doing. But later also on A330 flights to Asia !!!! Instead of VLM or in addition to VLM, Air Belgium, Cathay, Hainan, etc.????
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by crew1990 » 16 Feb 2018, 21:20

Well it might not be a new airline, maybe it's an existing one willing to start operation in Belgium

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Bralo20 » 16 Feb 2018, 22:25

Nothing published yet in the "Belgian State Gazette" at this point, last publication was last month with change of management.

Seems that the Brussels operations is called VLM Airlines NV (name change, ex-TCAB NV) and SHS Antwerp Aviation NV has registered the trade name VLM Regional (though the company name remains SHS Antwerp Aviation NV).

I guess the new management will be published in the next couple of weeks since the current CEO is gone already :)

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Avnu » 16 Feb 2018, 23:35

sn26567 wrote:
16 Feb 2018, 21:10
The article says that the new investor will concentrate on A320 charter flights, like VLM was doing. But later also on A330 flights to Asia !!!! Instead of VLM or in addition to VLM, Air Belgium, Cathay, Hainan, etc.????
I very much read that part of the article as 'instead of VLM'. The use of the verb 'neemt over' to me signaled that these activities move from SHS to the new owner.

But that being said: what's then left of the whole initial strategy to combine long haul flights from China to Maribor and possibly Ostend with onwards regional flights throughout Europe? How would those fit together if 'VLM Airlines' and 'VLM Regional' become two different companies altogether? I'm sure they could somehow work together, but still, it's quite a departure from what was shown on those blurry slides in Maribor.

And doesn't that mean that VLM Regional becomes yet another attempt to start up flights from Antwerp with old and slow planes to places that have been tried before, sold on a less than user friendly website and with no real marketing efforts to speak of? But I guess at least they haven't been blinded by the so called untapped opportunities of new routes from some godforsaken airports far, far away. So there's that.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by saratoga » 17 Feb 2018, 09:37

Absolutely true. One must admit that their startegy from the beginning was very “bizare”. Until now it is not a real solid operation, rather a operation with a lot of question marks. I am wondering what is going to happen with the VLM in ANR. I can not imagine it will stay long in the air.

I give them max 1year.

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 17 Feb 2018, 10:43

I fervently hope the ANR-LCY service can survive, in some way. The more so that it will be spared from direct competition from fast trains, as yet: Eurostar Londoin-Brussels will soon be extended to Amsterdam but will not stop in Antwerp (neither in Rotterdam).

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Passenger » 17 Feb 2018, 21:42

sn26567 wrote:
16 Feb 2018, 20:46
And who is that Dutch investor?
Bralo20 wrote:
16 Feb 2018, 22:25
Nothing published yet in the "Belgian State Gazette" at this point, last publication was last month with change of management. Seems that the Brussels operations is called VLM Airlines NV (name change, ex-TCAB NV) and SHS Antwerp Aviation NV has registered the trade name VLM Regional (though the company name remains SHS Antwerp Aviation NV). I guess the new management will be published in the next couple of weeks since the current CEO is gone already
Unconfirmed rumour, hence no names: new investor is J. - represented by mr G. (J. is already active in aviation with company I.)

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Boeing767copilot » 18 Feb 2018, 05:52

Passenger wrote:
17 Feb 2018, 21:42
sn26567 wrote:
16 Feb 2018, 20:46
And who is that Dutch investor?
Bralo20 wrote:
16 Feb 2018, 22:25
Nothing published yet in the "Belgian State Gazette" at this point, last publication was last month with change of management. Seems that the Brussels operations is called VLM Airlines NV (name change, ex-TCAB NV) and SHS Antwerp Aviation NV has registered the trade name VLM Regional (though the company name remains SHS Antwerp Aviation NV). I guess the new management will be published in the next couple of weeks since the current CEO is gone already
Unconfirmed rumour, hence no names: new investor is J. - represented by mr G. (J. is already active in aviation with company I.)
Represented by mr. G.? Mr. Gustin? :D

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Airbus330lover » 18 Feb 2018, 11:03

who knows :D

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Passenger » 18 Feb 2018, 12:05

Boeing767copilot wrote:
18 Feb 2018, 05:52
Represented by mr. G.? Mr. Gustin?
No - G. refers to a Chinese name - I'm waiting for confirmation.

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by DAT2527 » 19 Feb 2018, 18:47

Unconfirmed rumour, hence no names: new investor is J. - represented by mr G. (J. is already active in aviation with company I.)
Any update on 'Mr. G' and 'company I.'?
As per my sources it would be indeed a Dutch company and no Chinese investors...

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by FLYAIR10 » 20 Feb 2018, 21:02

Antwerp-Maribor not bookable on he VLM website... 'sold out' initially and afterwards 'no flights'.
MUC-MBX-MUC is still bookable though. Is this a (temporary) technical issue or something else?

I had the idea there was some demand from ANR to MBX though.
Snowheight in the Maribor mountains is 90 cm.Nice for skifun in a less wellknown area for us Belgians. :)

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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by lumumba » 20 Feb 2018, 23:02

Who is taking the VLM part with the A 320 at the end did they say they will give a name after the weekend or I'm wrong?!
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Re: VLM Airlines news 2018

Post by Ansett » 21 Feb 2018, 00:10

If VLM intends to fly long-haul, a name change would be wise to avoid a possible legal challenge by KLM.

They shoud organise a competition with suggestions for a new name (at least for long-haul operations) and the winner gets a free business class ticket to their first intercontinental sdestination.

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