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Passenger wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:45
sean1982 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:33
Passenger wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 16:59 Luk De Wilde, aviation journalist on Flemish radio VRT: "I don't think the news will be very bad".
He’s as much an aviation specialist as I am a nuclear scientist. Has no “feeling” with current business aviation Affairs. His specialism ends with “How many football fields fit on the wing of an A380”
Sure. And the Aviation Press Club Belgium - where he's president - is actually a society of video referees.

I'm pretty sure Luk De Wilde knows and understands Belgian aviation much better then most of us here. Including you.
I’ve yet to see one intelligent statement about aviation from him (knowing that it doesn’t stop at the Belgian border :roll: Aviation press coverage is abysmal)

Anyway, the point is just proven that “it wasn’t going to be that bad”
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eurm? reporting to CEO Gustin?


"As of October 1st, Christina Foerster will be joining the Management Board of Brussels Airlines as new Chief Commercial Officer. Reporting directly to CEO Bernard Gustin."

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brabel wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 18:00 eurm? reporting to CEO Gustin?


"As of October 1st, Christina Foerster will be joining the Management Board of Brussels Airlines as new Chief Commercial Officer. Reporting directly to CEO Bernard Gustin."
this was the old introduction when she joined SN see date 23 september 2016,

as from April 1st she will be the new CEO
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Indeed- it was a reply to this:
CTBke wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:49
Bralo20 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:44
TLspotting wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:43 Christina Förster is the new CEO
A puppet of herr Spohr...
she was already Commercial Director ;-)

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CTBke wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:49 she was already Commercial Director ;-)
I knew that ;)

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CTBke wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 18:01
brabel wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 18:00 eurm? reporting to CEO Gustin?


"As of October 1st, Christina Foerster will be joining the Management Board of Brussels Airlines as new Chief Commercial Officer. Reporting directly to CEO Bernard Gustin."
this was the old introduction when she joined SN see date 23 september 2016,

as from April 1st she will be the new CEO
Oopz, should have checked the date of course... Sorry :)

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Bralo20 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 17:26 Based on preliminary breaking news messages it seems that Gustin & De Raeymaecker were fired and that's it (for now). Brussels Airlines' strategy needs to be reviewed.

Like I thought, just the basics due to the big attention the past couple of days... A stay of execution for Brussels Airlines if I may say so.
We'll know soon enough. Apparently the CEO of Eurowings comes to Brussels on wednesday to shed some light on the future...

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VRT just send a breaking news message:

Etienne Davignon: "Brussels Airlines remains a Belgian company and will not be integrated into Eurowings"

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Just found the news online: https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/02/05 ... ppij-en-z/ (in Dutch)

It seems to be confirmed by Thorsten Dirks from Eurowings...


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pitrixplanespotting wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:32 So what are we complaining about :?: :lol:
The fact they fired Gustin & De Raeymaecker? :mrgreen:


Anyway, it's a very weird turnaround in one single day... Did someone had something to blackmail Lufthansa? :mrgreen:

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Bralo20 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:24 VRT just send a breaking news message:

Etienne Davignon: "Brussels Airlines remains a Belgian company and will not be integrated into Eurowings"
Sure, for now...
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Much to do about nothing.

Thanks (some) Belgian media and unions to spread ominous messages the last days.

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Bralo20 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:24 VRT just send a breaking news message:

Etienne Davignon: "Brussels Airlines remains a Belgian company and will not be integrated into Eurowings"
It’s called shushing the unions ;)

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Boeing767copilot wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:38 Much to do about nothing.

Thanks (some) Belgian media and unions to spread ominous messages the last days.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufth ... cted-grow/

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I am very curious what Thorsten Dirks has to say on Wednesday. The (internal) communication that was sent out this evening is hopeful (... "continue to fulfil the role as Belgian home carrier" ... "continued growth in Brussels" ... "Brussels will become the long haul competence center of the group"). Although I believe the main purpose is to keep the working morale high and avoid strikes, there have been much vaguer (and more negative) messages in the past.

The future will not be a walk in the park, but I remain hopeful that a bloodbath can still be avoided. :)
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sean1982 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:39 It’s called shushing the unions ;)
Quite possible indeed :-)

But even if it's a stay of execution (let's say for another year or maybe 2), then it gives Brussels Airlines the time to prove that they can operate profitably and can continue to grow.

And who knows, maybe Spohr will vanish into thin air, CEO's from airlines have generally a relatively short lifespan at the airlines. Before he knows, he could be fired :mrgreen: :lol:

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Bralo20 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:55
sean1982 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:39 It’s called shushing the unions ;)
Quite possible indeed :-)

But even if it's a stay of execution (let's say for another year or maybe 2), then it gives Brussels Airlines the time to prove that they can operate profitably and can continue to grow.

And who knows, maybe Spohr will vanish into thin air, CEO's from airlines have generally a relatively short lifespan at the airlines. Before he knows, he could be fired :mrgreen: :lol:
And then Gustin can take Spohr's place :p
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On the other hand, the whole thing is quite weird. It's like they adopted Gustin's vision for the future but that they went ahead with the terminations to save face. The fact that both "support" the transition suggests that they probably got a huge bonus to go away without making to much fuss.

Could be that the board meeting went against Spohr's wishes after all, we'll probably never know...

Just saying ;)

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Bralo20 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:55
sean1982 wrote: 05 Feb 2018, 19:39 It’s called shushing the unions ;)
Quite possible indeed :-)

But even if it's a stay of execution (let's say for another year or maybe 2), then it gives Brussels Airlines the time to prove that they can operate profitably and can continue to grow.

And who knows, maybe Spohr will vanish into thin air, CEO's from airlines have generally a relatively short lifespan at the airlines. Before he knows, he could be fired :mrgreen: :lol:
I hope that that will be the scenario!

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