Bralo20 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 13:52
According to someone on Airliners.net (I know, not the most reliable source) there are talks going to keep all planes on the ground "to make Lufthansa listen".
Anyway, if they decide to strike, is it really the first strike in the history of Brussels Airlines? Somehow it's hard to believe that there wasn't a strike before?
Well, if this is really the idea, to keep all planes on the ground, I am sure LH will listen and will react. But maybe not in the way it is expected ... they might be tempted to shut down the operation of SN, transfer planes to EW and hire new staff ...
IF full integration into the brand und business model of EW is their aim (which I do not know and what I certainly do not hope for), they will go for it. After all, they do own this whole company.
Jan Peeters (senior travel journalist - editor Travel360):
"...Voor de medewerkers van Brussels Airlines zijn dit uiteraard minder leuke dagen. Mogen wij één raad geven? Luister niet naar die met de spierballen rollende vakbondsvertegenwoordigers. Zij willen vooral hun eigen bestaan justifiëren. En probeer, in alle omstandigheden, de ratio te behouden. Blijf trots de klant centraal zetten, blijf trots de klant de beste service geven. Luister niet naar oproepen tot punctuele acties, of erger nog: stakingen. Recent deed Lufthansa CEO Spohr nog de uitspraak, naar aanleiding van een pilotenstaking: “liever een deel van Lufthansa tijdelijk aan de grond dan heel Lufthansa voor altijd aan de grond”. Met een staking win je niets, behalve zendtijd voor de toplui van de vakbonden..." http://travel360benelux.com//nl/jan-pee ... -scenario/
Translated, in brief: Brussels Airlines staff, I know it's a hard time, but please don't listen to your union delegates. They are only looking for a confirmation that they exist. Respect the passengers. Honour the service you have allways delivered. Remember what Spohr recently said about strikes: I prefer a temporary strike about totally grounding forever. You win nothing by going on strike. The only thing you realize, is prime tv coverage for a handfull of trade unionists.
euroflyer wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 14:26
Well, if I read that statement of Belgian companies, I cannot find much support to keep the brand or the business model.
I read: "“It is crucial that Brussels Airlines, together with its many partners, can further develop the hub in Brussels and the network of flights to Europe and the rest of the world.”"
euroflyer wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 14:26
Well, if I read that statement of Belgian companies, I cannot find much support to keep the brand or the business model.
I read: "“It is crucial that Brussels Airlines, together with its many partners, can further develop the hub in Brussels and the network of flights to Europe and the rest of the world.”"
I know that the Board is there to take strategic decisions. But I don't know if it's wise for a Board to vote 5-4 about extremely important issues. This should be done with almost unanimity. Will the Belgian board members accept such 5-4 vote? Or will they, in a last attempt to save Brussels Airlines, say that they refuse the decision, meaning they also have to quit?
One hour to go before the first trade unionist sends a sms to a VRT journo...
Passenger wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 16:10
I know that the Board is there to take strategic decisions. But I don't know if it's wise for a Board to vote 5-4 about extremely important issues. This should be done with almost unanimity. Will the Belgian board members accept such 5-4 vote? Or will they, in a last attempt to save Brussels Airlines, say that they refuse the decision, meaning they also have to quit?
One hour to go before the first trade unionist sends a sms to a VRT journo...
Looking at the reaction of Davignon yesterday I think the vote will be 6 against 3 with Davignon voting with the Germans. We'll probably never know but that's something I have a bad feeling about.
euroflyer wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 14:26
Well, if I read that statement of Belgian companies, I cannot find much support to keep the brand or the business model.
I read: "“It is crucial that Brussels Airlines, together with its many partners, can further develop the hub in Brussels and the network of flights to Europe and the rest of the world.”"
Yes, I read that, but it includes as well the possibility that Brussels Airlines (as a company, not as a brand) provides this service and develops flight connections to/from Brussels using a different branding ?! And if those Belgian companies would say anything else it would be more than funny, because most of them are global companies themselves and they do exactly the same in their area of business ... or do you think after e.g. Solvay took over Rhodia they would continue forever to keep the Rhodia business model and still name their products Rhodia
Passenger wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 16:10
I know that the Board is there to take strategic decisions. But I don't know if it's wise for a Board to vote 5-4 about extremely important issues. This should be done with almost unanimity. Will the Belgian board members accept such 5-4 vote? Or will they, in a last attempt to save Brussels Airlines, say that they refuse the decision, meaning they also have to quit?
The board are supposed to be wise men, who don’t vote with their heart, but base their vote upon economic realities and figures. I think the vote will be 7 for, 1 abstention and 1 against.
Geert, wannabe CEO myself, posted a long message on his facebook page: his heart bleeds: but there is only one solution possible.
Based on preliminary breaking news messages it seems that Gustin & De Raeymaecker were fired and that's it (for now). Brussels Airlines' strategy needs to be reviewed.
Like I thought, just the basics due to the big attention the past couple of days... A stay of execution for Brussels Airlines if I may say so.
Bralo20 wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 17:26
Based on preliminary breaking news messages it seems that Gustin & De Raeymaecker were fired and that's it (for now). Brussels Airlines' strategy needs to be reviewed.
Like I thought, just the basics due to the big attention the past couple of days... A stay of execution for Brussels Airlines if I may say so.
Passenger wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 16:59
Luk De Wilde, aviation journalist on Flemish radio VRT: "I don't think the news will be very bad".
He’s as much an aviation specialist as I am a nuclear scientist. Has no “feeling” with current business aviation Affairs. His specialism ends with “How many football fields fit on the wing of an A380”
Passenger wrote: ↑05 Feb 2018, 16:59
Luk De Wilde, aviation journalist on Flemish radio VRT: "I don't think the news will be very bad".
He’s as much an aviation specialist as I am a nuclear scientist. Has no “feeling” with current business aviation Affairs. His specialism ends with “How many football fields fit on the wing of an A380”
Sure. And the Aviation Press Club Belgium - where he's president - is actually a society of video referees.
I'm pretty sure Luk De Wilde knows and understands Belgian aviation much better then most of us here. Including you.
Friday, September 23, 2016 — As of October 1st, Christina Foerster will be joining the Management Board of Brussels Airlines as new Chief Commercial Officer.
... they might be tempted to shut down the operation of SN, transfer planes to EW and hire new staff ... 
