TUI fly Belgium in 2017

[cirrus]

Such a shame to wet lease planes from such companies. First of all for the belgian crews, then for the customers who think they are going to fly in a Tui plane when they buy their ticket... Not even mentioning their pilots whose English really s....

[skumfiduse]

Such a shame to wet lease planes from such companies. First of all for the belgian crews, then for the customers who think they are going to fly in a Tui plane when they buy their ticket... Not even mentioning their pilots whose English really s....

Oh well, I think TUI fly made a wise decision. They're probably short of capacity for the summer months. By adding those four additional planes, they can meet the increased demand of customers.

Do you have access to the contract details? TUI fly could possibly have negotiated to have partly TUI fly cabin crew on board. Who knows?

Oh and by the way, Brussels Airlines does exactly the same with bmi regional jets and previously with the odd German Avro RJ.

[sn26567]

Do you have access to the contract details? TUI fly could possibly have negotiated to have partly TUI fly cabin crew on board. Who knows?

Even with wet leases, there is always one TUI cabin crew on board (announcements in French and Dutch, answers to questions of passengers in French and Dutch, etc.)

[skumfiduse]

Do you have access to the contract details? TUI fly could possibly have negotiated to have partly TUI fly cabin crew on board. Who knows?

Even with wet leases, there is always one TUI cabin crew on board (announcements in French and Dutch, answers to questions of passengers in French and Dutch, etc.)

Thanks André. That's exactly what I was thinking of.

[Sai]

According to this article (Dutch) the new 737 MAX of TUI fly will have no inflight screens anymore as opposed to their current fleet.
As an aviation enthusiast I really liked to fly them because they had inflight screens on (almost) all their flights, not so for movies, but most of all for the moving map and inflight info. I personally believe many passengers love this and I’d hate to see it go…
Some airlines I flew with have an app for your personal device with a moving map via On Board Wi-fi…
so my question as there is no further specific info in the article and maybe someone on the forum has some info:

Will there be Wi-Fi on board and possibilities to charge your device and/or some kind of inflight entertainment on their 737MAX?

Would be a pitty to see the newest multi-million dollar Boeing planes without any IFE imo

[sn26567]

TUI fly to resume Tunisia flights

Just like Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium, TUI fly (Belgium) has also announced it will resume flights to Tunisia next summer, but hasn't set a firm date for launch.

Today TUI announced it would resume flights to Enfidha, Tunisia on 31 March.

[skumfiduse]

According to this article (Dutch) the new 737 MAX of TUI fly will have no inflight screens anymore as opposed to their current fleet.
As an aviation enthusiast I really liked to fly them because they had inflight screens on (almost) all their flights, not so for movies, but most of all for the moving map and inflight info. I personally believe many passengers love this and I’d hate to see it go…
Some airlines I flew with have an app for your personal device with a moving map via On Board Wi-fi…
so my question as there is no further specific info in the article and maybe someone on the forum has some info:

Will there be Wi-Fi on board and possibilities to charge your device and/or some kind of inflight entertainment on their 737MAX?

Would be a pitty to see the newest multi-million dollar Boeing planes without any IFE imo

A sign of the times. Inflight entertainment systems are expensive all the way: installation, configuration, maintenance, weight etc. Why invest money in this old technology when you can make passengers/guests happy with (free) wifi or a mobile site which is as good as an inflight entertainment system?

Airlines can make money by renting tablets, smartphones and selling power banks, cables, headphones etc.

Rest assured you'll still be able to access flight info

[sean1982]

According to this article (Dutch) the new 737 MAX of TUI fly will have no inflight screens anymore as opposed to their current fleet.
As an aviation enthusiast I really liked to fly them because they had inflight screens on (almost) all their flights, not so for movies, but most of all for the moving map and inflight info. I personally believe many passengers love this and I’d hate to see it go…
Some airlines I flew with have an app for your personal device with a moving map via On Board Wi-fi…
so my question as there is no further specific info in the article and maybe someone on the forum has some info:

Will there be Wi-Fi on board and possibilities to charge your device and/or some kind of inflight entertainment on their 737MAX?

Would be a pitty to see the newest multi-million dollar Boeing planes without any IFE imo

A sign of the times. Inflight entertainment systems are expensive all the way: installation, configuration, maintenance, weight etc. Why invest money in this old technology when you can make passengers/guests happy with (free) wifi or a mobile site which is as good as an inflight entertainment system?

Airlines can make money by renting tablets, smartphones and selling power banks, cables, headphones etc.

Rest assured you'll still be able to access flight info

with the difference then that holiday airlines also carry a lot of people (like my grandparents for example) who have never seen a tablet/smartphone from up close. It's a pity that for some people of the older generation this service is disappearing

[teddybAIR]

As a commercial company, the trick is to keep the service people are willing to pay for. If someone tells you it's a pitty to see a part of the service disappearing, the logical question is how much more they are willing to pay for that service. Unfortunately, the answer is often 0€.

I for example would like an Aston Martin. Unfortunately, I don't have the willingness to pay - nor the capacity by the way - to purchase one.

[Stij]

If they compensate with wifi and online content fine... and if the EU network carriers would learn from Delta, we could have acces to their website, including gate and delay information. If your flight is delayed and you re going to miss your connection, you can even rebook yourself. Saves a lot of time and frustration.

Stij

[Ozzie1969]

with the difference then that holiday airlines also carry a lot of people (like my grandparents for example) who have never seen a tablet/smartphone from up close. It's a pity that for some people of the older generation this service is disappearing

My guess is that your grandparents can survive without tablet/smartphone for the duration of a flight. They won't miss what they've never had.

[sean1982]

with the difference then that holiday airlines also carry a lot of people (like my grandparents for example) who have never seen a tablet/smartphone from up close. It's a pity that for some people of the older generation this service is disappearing

My guess is that your grandparents can survive without tablet/smartphone for the duration of a flight. They won't miss what they've never had.

What I meant is, they love following the flight info, enjoy a movie and relax. Its part of their holiday, and that gets taken away from them (not just my grandparents, anyone who isnt gadget minded) and that's a pity

[Sai]

I understand your comments...Nevertheless will miss the feature...
I would assume the cost of screens is relatively low in the total price of a brand new aircraft, weight shouldn't be an issue with streaming options nowadays I would think...

Offcourse their main competitors on their home market like SN, FR, etc haven't got screens/moving maps either, so why should they bother to continue to offer this...It indeed doesn't deliver them any profit...
Nevertheless still hope for (free) Wi-fi and an app of some sort then

[Ozzie1969]

with the difference then that holiday airlines also carry a lot of people (like my grandparents for example) who have never seen a tablet/smartphone from up close. It's a pity that for some people of the older generation this service is disappearing

My guess is that your grandparents can survive without tablet/smartphone for the duration of a flight. They won't miss what they've never had.

What I meant is, they love following the flight info, enjoy a movie and relax. Its part of their holiday, and that gets taken away from them (not just my grandparents, anyone who isnt gadget minded) and that's a pity

When I think back far enough to the days when individual screens for every seat didn't even exist, there were always screens suspended from the ceiling at the front of the aisle where they showed the flight plan, sometimes on longer flights even a movie. I guess they won't bring that back.

[sn26567]

According to this article (Dutch) the new 737 MAX of TUI fly will have no inflight screens anymore as opposed to their current fleet.
As an aviation enthusiast I really liked to fly them because they had inflight screens on (almost) all their flights, not so for movies, but most of all for the moving map and inflight info. I personally believe many passengers love this and I’d hate to see it go…
Some airlines I flew with have an app for your personal device with a moving map via On Board Wi-fi…
so my question as there is no further specific info in the article and maybe someone on the forum has some info:

Will there be Wi-Fi on board and possibilities to charge your device and/or some kind of inflight entertainment on their 737MAX?

Would be a pitty to see the newest multi-million dollar Boeing planes without any IFE imo

I asked the question and got a reply: Passengers will be able to see the moving map and other IFE on their own devices thanks to an on board server.

[Sai]

Thanks for the answer...I can live with that hopefully also a possibillity to charge your device..

[Kapitein]

Apperently TUI received a new ERJ-190 on 30/03 OO-TEA

[Bralo20]

Apperently TUI received a new ERJ-190 on 30/03 OO-TEA

Ex- Montenegro Airlines, build in 2014

[Sai]

According to this article (Dutch), TUI fly will offer Pilot training programme and type rating for 25% of current market price and will invest € 1 000 000 in an own simulator and other training infrastructure.
Can imagine the flight schools won’t be too happy…Could this bring some competition to lower prices for ATPL trainings on the Belgian ‘flight school’ market?

(Edit: Sorry, was already mentioned in the news section of the website too: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/tui-fly ... -programme )

[Poiu]

This sounds too nice to be true!
A couple of remarks:
- there is a lot cheaper on the market, especially for MPL courses, so I would say less than half of the going rate but certainly not a quarter.
- will the student be paid a normal salary for their ground duties?
- after completion of the MPL course the pilot can only act as a pilot for TUI, as his licence will be restricted for four (?) years. What will be the working conditions during this period?
In total the student will be working for TUI for 7 years. TUI salaries are below the going market rates, so probably there is no much gain in the end, except training by instructors who are amongst the best one can find.
Conclusion: it is probably too nice to be true unfortunately!