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BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by RoMax » 28 Mar 2011, 12:50

The new summer season just started, but the first changes for the comming winter season are already known.

Aeroflot will go from 8 weekly flights to double daily flights to Brussels, all operated by A320 (now they often use A319). I wonder if SN will be allowed to fly more to Moscow now.

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SU235 SVO1015 – 1155BRU 320 D
SU231 SVO2110 – 2240BRU 320 7
SU231 SVO2125 – 2255BRU 320 x7

SU236 BRU1245 – 1815SVO 320 D
SU232 BRU2335 – 0450+1SVO 320 7
SU232 BRU2355 – 0510+1SVO 320 x7


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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by 134flyer » 28 Mar 2011, 17:49

MR_Boeing wrote: I wonder if SN will be allowed to fly more to Moscow now.
As Aeroflot will go double daily, hopefully yes. This is what SN planned for summer 2008:

SN2835 BRU1220 - DME1545 319 D
SN2839 BRU2330 - DME0450 319 x7

SN2836 DME1630 - BRU2000 319 D
SN2840 DME0545 - BRU0730 319 x7

However, in the end they weren't allowed by the Russians to go double daily, as AFL wasn't allowed to expand to BRU either (if IIRC)

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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis » 05 Jun 2011, 14:11

Delta Airlines is upgrading BRU again. On the route BRU-JFK we will see their B763 instead of the current 757-200

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Post by Atlantis » 06 Jun 2011, 22:11

US Airways is going to reduce their number of flights between 29 nov and 15 dec from 6 flights a week to 5 flights a week. The type of aircraft will be unchanged -> B767.

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Post by sn26567 » 24 Jun 2011, 10:43

Following Route will maintain Summer frequencies, an increase from Winter 2010 season

Amman – Brussels 3 weekly (2 weekly in Winter 2010)

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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis » 06 Jul 2011, 22:38

Jetairfly is going to start up a new long haul destination ex-BRU. It will be Santo Dominco in the Dominican Republic. It will be a weekly flight and this on Monday.

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Post by RoMax » 21 Jul 2011, 10:28

It was known Nantes and Bordeaux are/were possible future destinations for SN in France. But for Nantes it will be not SN but AF. Recently AF started to announce new routes out of regional airports and now they announced DUS and BRU out of Nantes.

The flights to DUS and BRU will be operated with ERJ135 aircraft, 2 daily to BRU (no flights saterday and 1 daily on sunday) and 6 weekly to DUS. Flights start at 2 October (so actually a bit before W11-12 starts).

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AF3152 NTE0755 – 0920BRU ER3 x67
AF3156 NTE1535 – 1700BRU ER3 7
AF3156 NTE1635 – 1800BRU ER3 x67

AF3153 BRU1000 – 1125NTE ER3 x67
AF3157 BRU1730 – 1855NTE ER3 7
AF3157 BRU1830 – 1955NTE ER3 x67
http://airlineroute.net/2011/07/21/af-nte-oct11/

BTW, just found out, they actually also resume the BOD service, but trough NTE. The flights depart in BOD and fly trough NTE to BRU and return to BOD trough NTE.

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Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 21 Jul 2011, 15:50

Regarding BOD & NTE, sad to see that AF finally took the opportunities over SN.

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Post by RoMax » 21 Jul 2011, 17:22

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:Regarding BOD & NTE, sad to see that AF finally took the opportunities over SN.
But SN can still operate these routes. SN can use transfer pax of these routes, next to the point to point pax. AF can only use the point to point pax as AFI pax are not going to fly BRU-NTE-CDG-AFI but BRU-CDG (by train)-AFI.

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Post by Flanker » 21 Jul 2011, 17:38

But SN can still operate these routes. SN can use transfer pax of these routes, next to the point to point pax. AF can only use the point to point pax as AFI pax are not going to fly BRU-NTE-CDG-AFI but BRU-CDG (by train)-AFI.
This is one of the great things that SN can do with the turboprop's. They can make a killing on these 2 routes.
Guess what, AF is doing SN the favor of starting-up the route for SN and SN can go in and steal all the pax from them at lower fares.

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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by lumumba » 21 Jul 2011, 17:48

MR_Boeing.
Not realy they can do like they did befor and use Delta for ex to feed New York or Atlanta.
And they can do the same with all the other Skyteam partner.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Post by RoMax » 21 Jul 2011, 17:52

lumumba wrote:MR_Boeing.
Not realy they can do like they did befor and use Delta for ex to feed New York or Atlanta.
And they can do the same with all the other Skyteam partner.
Yes ok, that's true, AF can indeed take traffic pax on these flights... But this don't change SN's oppertunities. SN can operate BOD and/or NTE to compete on the point to point side and they can use the route(s) to feed the AFI network (or who knows their future atlantic flight).

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Post by cathay belgium » 21 Jul 2011, 18:52

Ncb, indeed this is a nearby small airport which would be ideal for starting up with props, nobody doubted about this ;) hope we will see sn to participate in this competition cxb
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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by RoMax » 21 Jul 2011, 19:29

Indeed, this is an exemple of thos thin routes wich are not a really good idea with a RJ85, for sure not with a RJ100. But this is something completely else than a bussy or busier route flying with a TP/Q400. ;)

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Post by sdbelgium » 21 Jul 2011, 19:44

Regarding the full schedule, for those who are interested:

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AF 3152  BOD 0640  NTE 0725  ER3  x67
AF 3152  NTE 0755  BRU 0920  ER3  x67
AF 3153  BRU 1000  NTE 1125  ER3  x67
AF 3153  NTE 1155  BOD 1240  ER3  x67

AF 3156  BOD 1420  NTE 1505  ER3  7
AF 3156  NTE 1535  BRU 1700  ER3  7
AF 3157  BRU 1730  NTE 1855  ER3  7
AF 3157  NTE 1925  BOD 2010  ER3  7

AF 3156  BOD 1520  NTE 1605  ER3  x67
AF 3156  NTE 1635  BRU 1800  ER3  x67
AF 3157  BRU 1830  NTE 1955  ER3  x67
AF 3158  NTE 2025  BOD 2110  ER3  x67
  • Turnaround times of 30 minutes at every station.
  • Travel time BOD-BRU only 2h40 minutes.

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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by SabenaForever » 22 Jul 2011, 22:48

Air Arabia Maroc will launch flights from Tanger to Brussels from 30 October 2011!

flightschedule:

3O2113 TNG1325 - 1725BRU 320 37
3O2114 BRU1035 - 1230TNG 320 37

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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by HighInTheSky » 23 Jul 2011, 11:18

Just noticed while booking on their site, that Air Canada will downgrade flight to/from YUL and YYZ from A330 to B763 again during winter.

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Post by RoMax » 23 Jul 2011, 11:40

HighInTheSky wrote:Just noticed while booking on their site, that Air Canada will downgrade flight to/from YUL and YYZ from A330 to B763 again during winter.
That was planned before, but it was also planned that it would be daily B763ER during the winter. But this seems the be gone in the GDS for quite some time, now it is 5 weekly B763ER (wasn't it 4 weekly previous winter?).

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Post by Bralo20 » 23 Jul 2011, 11:43

MR_Boeing wrote: That was planned before, but it was also planned that it would be daily B763ER during the winter. But this seems the be gone in the GDS for quite some time, now it is 5 weekly B763ER (wasn't it 4 weekly previous winter?).
I thought the upgrade was planned to be the year round. Also the daily service was announced year round starting from this summer... However, a 5 weekly service is still one up from the 4 weekly service last winter.

So in general the route is being upgraded compared to last winter though it's being downgraded compared to the announcements.

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Re: BRU winter 2011/2012: latest news, routes, airlines

Post by RoMax » 23 Jul 2011, 11:51

As far as I know the idea was to go daily year round, with A333 upgrade during summer (even not the full IATA summer season btw). Suddenly from 4 weekly B763 to daily A333 in winter would be a bit too much, isn't it, even for this succesfull route...
But indeed it's less than they planned earlier this year.

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