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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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PttU wrote: 25 Oct 2021, 14:55
Conti764 wrote: 25 Oct 2021, 14:44 BRU is far from that and in a bigger scope a regional airport on itself, compared to other major airports. Now many airlines have BRU bound or originating pax transferred to major hub airports. They'd rather serve the Brussels and Belgian market directly from BRU i.s.o. CRL.
Which has nothing to do with Air Belgium, which is the topic here.
It is a reply to a statement of another member.

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Stij wrote: 25 Oct 2021, 15:47 Maybe another destination from BRU that could be profitable for Air Belgium is Cape Town. Especially during the winter months there's a lot of Belgians, (especially from the North) flying form BRU to CPT via AMS, FRA, LHR, IST, DXB, DOH and ADD.
What a drama here haha. But yeah South Africa has been in the plans for some time (they announced in the press in end June 2021, so not totally old).

They have already landed at both JNB & CPT. That would be interesting to see their future developments. Same with the ones of BRU. I don't see them really make a partnership with airlines without hub in Brussels. That's the whole point of some failures at the airline : no partnership.

French West Indies : Air Antilles Express, then back to Air Caraïbes... SFG not bookable or cross Antilles flights neither. There were also the "codeshared" flights to CUR, never seen at Air Caraïbes or so. You can't book flights for the other airline. It seems that it is all about wind. Sorry to say so Air Belgium but it is the idea I have for many months. Air Belgium reads me a lot (some people know why) but I have my right to speak. :D

Just imagine with LOT for example : KRK-WAW-BRU-MRU, what a long journey ! TUI doesn't seem to be the ideal partner neither.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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TLspotting wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 10:48 That's the whole point of some failures at the airline : no partnership.
HKG put apart, what other failures are you talking about?
TLspotting wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 10:48
Just imagine with LOT for example : KRK-WAW-BRU-MRU, what a long journey ! TUI doesn't seem to be the ideal partner neither.
I'm sorry but... what's your point here?
Do you think a polish traveler looks at Air Belgium for his trip to MRU with his family? :lol:
How about TUI, what do you mean "not the ideal partner"? :|

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Lux_avi wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 17:29
TLspotting wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 10:48 That's the whole point of some failures at the airline : no partnership.
HKG put apart, what other failures are you talking about?

The non-existant partnerships
TLspotting wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 10:48
Just imagine with LOT for example : KRK-WAW-BRU-MRU, what a long journey ! TUI doesn't seem to be the ideal partner neither.
I'm sorry but... what's your point here?
Do you think a polish traveler looks at Air Belgium for his trip to MRU with his family? :lol:
How about TUI, what do you mean "not the ideal partner"? :|
I meant that actually it would be better to have a BRU based airline to have many codesharing possibilities. TUI is not really useful. Many airlines use their home base as hub. I mean that I don't really think that TUI might be the airline that would be able to get transiting passengers. It can be but limited.
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TLspotting wrote: 24 Oct 2021, 20:53 Willy Borsus, Vice-Minister of Wallonia told Air Belgium is to extend its route for Mauritius to La Réunion starting in December 2021.
Just got info this morning that the RUN extension will not be for December, but pushed back to "early 2022".
Some issue to solve with crew flight time limitations. Corsair does it though, but from Paris.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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OO-ABB positioning to Ostrava this afternoon (STD 1400) to operate a charter flight to the Caribbean.

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sdbelgium wrote: 12 Nov 2021, 13:37 OO-ABB positioning to Ostrava this afternoon (STD 1400) to operate a charter flight to the Caribbean.
Absolutely : to Punta Cana.
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sn26567 wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 17:56 CMA CGM Air Cargo plans to establish a French AOC and launch service with Boeing 777Fs in 2022.
Also placed an order for 4x recently launched Airbus A350F. No delivery schedule yet AFAIK.

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from CMA CGM press release

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According to various sources, Air Belgium is announcing this week the arrival of 2 new Airbus A330neo's to replace the A340's.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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As per info on Belgium Aircraft Register, OO-ABD has been deregistered yesterday.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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OO-ABB on her way to LBV today.

OO-ABB 25NOV21.png


SN does not fly today to ROB/FNA, and not exactly in the same area over Africa, but what do you think about having a "AirBelgium241" and a "BeeLine241" on the same freq .... ?
Is there an attempt generally to avoid confusion in the attribution of flight numbers?


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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 25 Nov 2021, 19:10 SN does not fly today to ROB/FNA, and not exactly in the same area over Africa, but what do you think about having a "AirBelgium241" and a "BeeLine241" on the same freq .... ?
As long as the call signs are sufficiently separate having the same flight number is OK. In either case Brussels flew out as BEL241W to enhance the distinction.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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Are KF flights to Fort de France and Pointe à Pitre bookable at this time? Difficulty in the reservation process! Thank's

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nordikcam wrote: 26 Nov 2021, 16:07 Are KF flights to Fort de France and Pointe à Pitre bookable at this time? Difficulty in the reservation process! Thank's
Try again today, PTP has reopened. FDF closed until 2 Feb 2022.
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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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Hello,

Delivery flight of the second A339(OO-ABF) is scheduled for the 15 December 14h45 at BRU. Flight number KF339.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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From 11 December 2021 to 2 January 2022, certain Corsair flights between Paris-Orly and Abidjan will be operated by an Air Belgium Airbus A330-900neo.
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Air Belgium will be starting 747-8 freighter ops from early 2022. Pilot recruitment already started as this is also mentioned on their LinkedIn.
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737ToHeaven wrote: 07 Dec 2021, 22:37 Air Belgium will be starting 747-8 freighter ops from early 2022. Pilot recruitment already started as this is also mentioned on their LinkedIn.
Mees Jansen created this design:

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Our contribution on the main page: https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/air- ... from-2022/

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Could it be they are going to opperate them in the same way as they do for CMA-CGM. There is a logistics company that opened a warehouse at BRU and also bought two B747-8F, rumours say they are not placing them at the opperator that was mentioned in their press-release.

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Re: Air Belgium in 2021

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Great to see KF expanding like this! That 747 in Air Belgium livery looks awesome. It would be great to see a Belgian 747 again some day in passenger service (a man can dream) ;)

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