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Flanker2 wrote: 11 Apr 2021, 17:30 Get rid of entire middle and upper management, start fresh with people who prioritize mutual respect and competence over favours and internal friendships. People managers who understand that a company is one team, not winners and losers based on who best kisses your behind.
The company has been working on that with external consultants, as far as I know!
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https://www.vielfliegertreff.de/deals/l ... rst-class/


Lufthansa group special to Africa.... LH, OS and LX but
Where is SN ?

Wasn’t it the idea that SN would become a full network airline...?

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Deejay wrote: 24 Apr 2021, 18:39 https://www.vielfliegertreff.de/deals/l ... rst-class/


Lufthansa group special to Africa.... LH, OS and LX but
Where is SN ?

Wasn’t it the idea that SN would become a full network airline...?
Go on LH website and check offers and select Africa. You will see a lot of SN destination...

Lome, Abidjan, Kigali, Acrra, Kinshasa, Cotonou, Entebbe, Dakar,...

https://www.lufthansa.com/fr/fr/vols. French website, and i have checked for Kigali. Most of time, 1st Choice: CDG-BRU-KGL

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Deejay wrote: 24 Apr 2021, 18:39 https://www.vielfliegertreff.de/deals/l ... rst-class/

Lufthansa group special to Africa.... LH, OS and LX but
Where is SN ?

Wasn’t it the idea that SN would become a full network airline...?
rwandan-flyer wrote: 24 Apr 2021, 19:59 Go on LH website and check offers and select Africa. You will see a lot of SN destinations...

Lome, Abidjan, Kigali, Acrra, Kinshasa, Cotonou, Entebbe, Dakar,...

https://www.lufthansa.com/fr/fr/vols. French website, and i have checked for Kigali. Most of time, 1st Choice: CDG-BRU-KGL
I guess that SN prefers to enjoy the full fare on its Africa flights and leave the discount fares to LH, LX and OS.

Furthermore, SN doesn't fly to any of the advertised destinations (JNB, CPT, NBO, ABV, DAR)
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2021

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Yes.... i know....

But nevertheless they could have a real group strategy for this promotion and overall, I am not seeing any evolution in the upgrading of SN’s position towards a full partner inside LH group as an equal to LX and OS...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2021

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sn26567 wrote: 24 Apr 2021, 21:36
Deejay wrote: 24 Apr 2021, 18:39 https://www.vielfliegertreff.de/deals/l ... rst-class/

Lufthansa group special to Africa.... LH, OS and LX but
Where is SN ?

Wasn’t it the idea that SN would become a full network airline...?
rwandan-flyer wrote: 24 Apr 2021, 19:59 Go on LH website and check offers and select Africa. You will see a lot of SN destinations...

Lome, Abidjan, Kigali, Acrra, Kinshasa, Cotonou, Entebbe, Dakar,...

https://www.lufthansa.com/fr/fr/vols. French website, and i have checked for Kigali. Most of time, 1st Choice: CDG-BRU-KGL
I guess that SN prefers to enjoy the full fare on its Africa flights and leave the discount fares to LH, LX and OS.

Furthermore, SN doesn't fly to any of the advertised destinations (JNB, CPT, NBO, ABV, DAR)
What are currently the most requested destinations from Vienna to the Africa ? Because these offers are from Austria

Dakar ? Abidjan ? I don't think.

If you check QR (https://www.qatarairways.com/en-at/offers.html), ET (https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/en-at ... om-viennac) or AF (https://www.airfrance.at/cgi-bin/AF/AT/ ... 1619330154), you can't find a West African destination except for Lagos with Air France.

Most of offers to Africa are in East Africa and Southern Africa. Part of Africa where SN has a low presence or 0 presence.

Even on SN website you can't find offers to Africa, from Vienna https://www.brusselsairlines.com/en-at/ ... -week.aspx

If you check Copenhagen, they are lots of offers to Africa, because demand is currently bigger: https://www.brusselsairlines.com/en-at/ ... -week.aspx (select CPH)

And yes therre are mix of SN and LH destinations on LH, but when you select an African destination served by SN, most of times 1st choice is VIA Bru.

Check London, Paris, Francfurt, Washington (UA-SN for Kigali),....and Vienna. You have offers to SN destinations in Africa https://www.lufthansa.com/il/en/flights

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Nice to see that SN has seven (7) flights heading for Africa today.

SN AFI 01MAY21.png
OO-SFE would have liked to be on the photo as well but my FR24 limits the Multi-Select to six only.
She is operating the SN473 service to EBB.

I have no info on the load factor but assuming they also carry some cargo these flights are hopefully profitable.

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Glad to see 7 SN long range flights in the Africa sky!

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2021

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 01 May 2021, 20:33 Nice to see that SN has seven (7) flights heading for Africa today.


SN AFI 01MAY21.png

OO-SFE would have liked to be on the photo as well but my FR24 limits the Multi-Select to six only.
She is operating the SN473 service to EBB.

I have no info on the load factor but assuming they also carry some cargo these flights are hopefully profitable.

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African focus yields intercontinental success

The Belgian government’s ban on non-essential international travel has stifled demand, and proved a significant obstacle for Brussels Airlines. However, it has found that its African routes have performed comparatively well under the circumstances thanks to VFR and cargo demand. Regarding its shifted operational focus, the airline stated that:

“Intercontinental traffic performed better than the European operations due to the company’s focus on African routes, with a stable demand in the VFR segment (Visiting Friends & Relatives), and at the level of cargo, especially in terms of medical supply transport.”

https://simpleflying.com/brussels-airli ... rter-2021/

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2021

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 10 Feb 2021, 19:33 And another No-Fly day today for SN.
Seems to be the new norm for Wednesdays ?

H.A.
I see departures to Porto and Barcelona today, possibly the first time SN flies again on Wednesdays?


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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2021

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Homo Aeroportus wrote: 12 May 2021, 10:22
Homo Aeroportus wrote: 10 Feb 2021, 19:33 And another No-Fly day today for SN.
Seems to be the new norm for Wednesdays ?

H.A.
I see departures to Porto and Barcelona today, possibly the first time SN flies again on Wednesdays?


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