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sn26567 wrote:
25 Apr 2020, 00:19
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Aeromexico is working with the Mexican government to strengthen liquidity. The carrier is also working on an extensive list of initiatives to obtain US$400 million in additional liquidity, including sale/leasebacks of owned aircraft and financing from European credit agencies and the Ex-Im Bank (US). B737 MAX compensation from Boeing to also contribute.

Mexican newspaper says that Aeromexico could file for Chapter 11. It's an opnion from a journalist of El Financiero

https://translate.google.fr/translate?h ... r-11-en-ny

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Air Albania will resume regular flights on 22 June 2020 based on bilateral agreements with the corresponding countries.

Air France HOP will be restructured with 27 of 57 planes set to exit the fleet and hundreds of employees to be cut.

Amaszonas of Bolivia warns the government that airlines in the country may soon disappear if an immediate rescue plan is not supported.

Emirates plans to open ‘air bridges’ with European countries to allow tourists to travel between two countries during the pandemic, without needing to quarantine.

LATAM expects the region´s largest carrier to be operating at half of pre-pandemic levels by the end of 2020, and that a full recovery was unlikely for at least 3-4 years. The company plans to file a US$2 billion plan with the US bankruptcy court to address the crisis.

Zeitfracht Group is withdrawing from aviation due to the effects of the pandemic. German Airways will continue charters for the time being.

Argentina hopes to find a path that will allow LATAM Argentina to continue operating in the country and the workers not to lose their jobs.

Australia’s competition regulator will monitor domestic airfares and profits for three years, increasing scrutiny as the industry begins a slow recovery from the pandemic.

Kazakhstan has approved the resumption of international air connection starting 20 June 2020. The approval covers several countries in Asia, specifically China, South Korea, Thailand and Japan, as well as Turkey and Georgia.

Nigeria says the 21 June 2020 date for the restart of domestic flights in the country is not feasible, No new date was announced.
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The British commons transport select committee strongly condemned British Airways’ behaviour and its parent company towards its employees during a time of international crisis. The committee’s view is that British Airways’ current consultation on staffing changes is a calculated attempt to take advantage of the pandemic to cut 12,000 jobs and to downgrade the terms and conditions of approximately 35,000 employees.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/inte ... e-mps-say/

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Malaysia is preparing to reopen international flight routes, but was limited to six countries with a coronavirus green zone, namely Singapore, Brunei, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea.

Aeromar of Mexico plans to open six new routes over the course of 2020, hoping to recover up to three-quarters of its operations by December and return to profitability.

Air France-KLM shareholders, the French and Dutch governments, cannot agree on the bailout terms. The Dutch government wants to control how the €4 billion is used; in particular, it wants to see that it only goes to the Dutch part of the airline.

Airbus is extending furlough programs for 5,300 of its employees in Spain and the UK in its latest effort to cope with the impact of the outbreak.

BA CityFlyer will resume some routes from London City Airport to Ibiza, Florence, Málaga and Palma in summer 2020. The airline will also be recommencing flights to Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dublin.

Canaryfly will resume flight operations from 01 July 2020, connecting Gran Canaria, Tenerife, Fuerteventura, Lanzarote and La Palma.

Wizz Air has reopened its base at Kyiv and restarted flights from Ukraine to Hungary, Germany, Denmark, Estonia, Greece and UK. Wizz Air has also reopened its bases in Sibiu and Timisoara and announced Craiova base reopening for 19 June 2020.

Poland will lift passenger limits from 01 July 2020 on both regular and charter flights.
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https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20200621_04997153

This article is in Dutch but it's so true it talks about how is it possible that we can go in planes but theaters has to stay closed!!!
How is a plane more safe than a theater?!
The answer is money so don't speak about let's help each other etc...
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 01:05
https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20200621_04997153

This article is in Dutch but it's so true it talks about how is it possible that we can go in planes but theaters has to stay closed!!!
How is a plane more safe than a theater?!
The answer is money so don't speak about let's help each other etc...
In a plane, air is renewed every 3 minutes and goes through HEPA filters eliminating 99.99% of the viruses and bacteria. In a theater, ... ?
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sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 11:49
lumumba wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 01:05
https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20200621_04997153

This article is in Dutch but it's so true it talks about how is it possible that we can go in planes but theaters has to stay closed!!!
How is a plane more safe than a theater?!
The answer is money so don't speak about let's help each other etc...
In a plane, air is renewed every 3 minutes and goes through HEPA filters eliminating 99.99% of the viruses and bacteria. In a theater, ... ?
I read an article about one example in a plane where they had the proof that one person can contaminate about 30 other person.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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sn26567 wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 11:49
In a plane, air is renewed every 3 minutes and goes through HEPA filters eliminating 99.99% of the viruses and bacteria. In a theater, ... ?
Infection takes place before the air is filtered!
If you sit in the vicinity of a contagious person you will breath in part of his exhale before it reaches the filter and this for the whole duration of the flight.

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lumumba wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 12:13

I read an article about one example in a plane where they had the proof that one person can contaminate about 30 other person.
Indeed, here is the article from the New England journal of medicine, 1 person infected 22 others , seated in his vicinity, during a 3 hour flight:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa031349

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lumumba wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 01:05
https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20200621_04997153

This article is in Dutch but it's so true it talks about how is it possible that we can go in planes but theaters has to stay closed!!!
How is a plane more safe than a theater?!
The answer is money so don't speak about let's help each other etc...
For some people, flights are vital... Because they work in different places, have family living abroad, have specific medical appointments,... Reasons to reintroduce a basic aerial connectivity are numerous, and not just to support airlines. Whereas for the theaters, they are "only" there for entertainment purposes and therefore, aren't really necessary for the time being.

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Flights are vital ?
Maybe the most vital thing is to remain alive ? No ?

But there is a market for russian roulette, we can admit that
My messages reflect my personal opinion which may be different than yours. I beleive a forum is made to create a debate so I encourage people to express themselves, the way they want, with the ideas they want. I expect the same understanding in return.

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Ge203 wrote:
24 Jun 2020, 09:58

For some people, flights are vital... Because they work in different places, have family living abroad, have specific medical appointments,... Reasons to reintroduce a basic aerial connectivity are numerous, and not just to support airlines.
Absolutely correct, BUT apply social distancing on board and increase fares to do so.
Putting people on full flights is asking for trouble, pretending all is safe on board is misleading!

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On Saturday 20 June, Emirates flight EK380 (Boeing 777-300ER registered A6-EQG) flew from Dubai to Hong Kong. So far 26 passengers on board have tested positive for Covid-19 upon arrival at Hong Kong, although there is thermal screening at Dubai Airport also for transit passengers. Hong Kong authorities have published the seat assignments of the passengers who tested positive for coronavirus (see Tweet hereunder). They were NOT seated together in a cluster but spread out throughout the cabin.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/emir ... hong-kong/
ICAO (and for the EU: EASA) have failed to force safe rules onboard. Whilst everything inside the airport is as safe as possible, it is not once passengers go through the gate. Social distancing is not obliged during boarding-deboarding, so airlines keep their short turnaround times as before. Authorities should have said "minimal 1,5 hours turnaround time": that would have allowed crew to implement boarding-deboarding with respect to social distancing.

Catering is the other danger and it's no coincidence that a top class airline like Emirates is the first airline to be confronted with a Covid-19 drama. The basic rule must be "wear mouth masks througout the flight". But authorities have allowed an exception: catering. Example: EASA' recommandations:"...Aeroplane operators should reduce on-board service to the minimum necessary to ensure comfort and wellbeing standards for passengers and limit the contact between crew members and passengers, giving proper consideration to the duration of the flight. Among these measures the following should be considered: ... Reduced food and drink service... Preference for pre-packaged and sealed food and drink products, such as canned drinks..."

The guideline should have been: "no meals are allowed - only small snacks, size candy bar or small waffle. No drinks allowed, except free bottles of water".

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Qatar and the Arab Emirates like Saudi Arabia for that matter or Kuwait are curiously and proportionally very affected in view of the small population that they naturally have. I find it hard to understand that some are rushing to their airports for flight connections ... for the moment ... the example of the EK flight over Hong-Kong is quite edifying!

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Ge203 wrote:
24 Jun 2020, 09:58
lumumba wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 01:05
https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20200621_04997153

This article is in Dutch but it's so true it talks about how is it possible that we can go in planes but theaters has to stay closed!!!
How is a plane more safe than a theater?!
The answer is money so don't speak about let's help each other etc...
For some people, flights are vital... Because they work in different places, have family living abroad, have specific medical appointments,... Reasons to reintroduce a basic aerial connectivity are numerous, and not just to support airlines. Whereas for the theaters, they are "only" there for entertainment purposes and therefore, aren't really necessary for the time being.
Culture is also a necessity for some people believe me but that's another debate.
Also in theaters is it more easy to implement social distancing (who is a wrong term it should be geographical distancing or something like that) etc...
For me it's clear that a economic pressure made it possible to fly again.
My personal opinion is to open everything and to learn to live with this virus I think we live in a sanitized world where dead is taboo!
I Africa millions of people die every year because multiple viruses and bacterial infections but nobody never stopped nothing!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Acid-drop wrote:
24 Jun 2020, 12:41
Flights are vital ?
Maybe the most vital thing is to remain alive ? No ?
But there is a market for russian roulette, we can admit that
Of course not literally vital, but very much needed.
Poiu wrote:
24 Jun 2020, 13:47
Absolutely correct, BUT apply social distancing on board and increase fares to do so.
Putting people on full flights is asking for trouble, pretending all is safe on board is misleading!
That is for sure. Some flights are needed and, in a perfect world, with social distancing, but is it really more "dangerous" than taking the train or the bus?
lumumba wrote:
24 Jun 2020, 17:37

Culture is also a necessity for some people believe me but that's another debate.
Also in theaters is it more easy to implement social distancing (who is a wrong term it should be geographical distancing or something like that) etc...
For me it's clear that a economic pressure made it possible to fly again.
My personal opinion is to open everything and to learn to live with this virus I think we live in a sanitized world where dead is taboo!
I Africa millions of people die every year because multiple viruses and bacterial infections but nobody never stopped nothing!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying culture is not important. But for some people, air connectivity between remote cities is as important as the subway or train is for others. Or should we close those too?

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Daily review:

Air Astana to reconsider plans for aeroplanes fleet renewal due to the pandemic. Some of the planned deliveries will be delayed as the carrier focus on a handful of domestic and international routes until demand returns. The carrier had aimed to end 2020 with 42 planes.

Cathay Pacific
is preparing to cancel “many” of the passenger flights it has repurposed to carry only freight, as the air cargo market is weakening.

Copa Airlines now expects to resume operations on 07 August 2020, once it receives the permits required by the corresponding authorities in the other countries of the region.

Flydubai has announced that flights are available to be booked from 07 July 2020, initially to 24 destinations. Destinations and flight frequencies will continue to be added to the schedule over the summer.

JetSMART of Chile still plans to enter the Brazilian domestic market, despite the collapse in demand caused by the pandemic.

Volaris predicts a reactivation of the Mexican domestic market in the next three to six months.

Cape Verde has decided to postpone the date for the reopening of its borders by one month until August 2020.

EU countries rushing to revive their economies and reopen their borders after months of coronavirus restrictions are prepared to block Americans from entering because the US has failed to control the scourge.
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No idea if it was mentioned already but The States just decided to prolong the travel restrictions for Europeans till the end of the year.

At the same time Europe is also working on restrictions for Americans as from 1st July

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sn26567 wrote:
24 Jun 2020, 21:21
Daily review:

Air Astana to reconsider plans for aeroplanes fleet renewal due to the pandemic. Some of the planned deliveries will be delayed as the carrier focus on a handful of domestic and international routes until demand returns. The carrier had aimed to end 2020 with 42 planes.

Cathay Pacific
is preparing to cancel “many” of the passenger flights it has repurposed to carry only freight, as the air cargo market is weakening.

Copa Airlines now expects to resume operations on 07 August 2020, once it receives the permits required by the corresponding authorities in the other countries of the region.

Flydubai has announced that flights are available to be booked from 07 July 2020, initially to 24 destinations. Destinations and flight frequencies will continue to be added to the schedule over the summer.

JetSMART of Chile still plans to enter the Brazilian domestic market, despite the collapse in demand caused by the pandemic.

Volaris predicts a reactivation of the Mexican domestic market in the next three to six months.

Cape Verde has decided to postpone the date for the reopening of its borders by one month until August 2020.


EU countries rushing to revive their economies and reopen their borders after months of coronavirus restrictions are prepared to block Americans from entering because the US has failed to control the scourge.
Africans countries are not hurry to reopen their boarders. Sanitary situation is not the same, depending countries. Situation is not the same in Cameroon and in Namibia. The peak could be reach, in August or September 2020, but it's hard to predict, so we have to be prudent. That's probably why some countries, wan't to reopen their boardes before September (Mauritius and probably Kenya)

Porbably North Africans countries will be the 1st country to reopen their boarders, in early July 2020, but probaly with huge controls at the arrival (my opinion).

Currently Air France has confirmed for July-August Conakry, Cotonou, Douala, Yaoundé, Nouakchott et Tunis (if boarders reopen). For others, AF still negotiating with Africans states.

Air France, Brussels Airlines and Turkish Airlines are the 3 airlines with an "amibtious" program for Africa.

Few Africans airlines have started to publish timetables for their intra African destinations. Same thing for Midle East aairlines after pubblished an amibtious program for Africa, Emirates has canceled the resumption of its flights to Africa. https://www.emirates.com/fr/english/hel ... -services/

Some goods links about Covid19 in Africa and African Aviation post Covid19, from Jeune Afrique (in French, Google translate puts me an error message, when i want to translate both articles)
https://www.jeuneafrique.com/1004618/so ... n-afrique/
https://www.jeuneafrique.com/1005660/ec ... era-quand/

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I fear that the worst is coming

Qantas is cutting 6,000 jobs and raising $1.3 billion as the coronavirus pandemic takes its toll

A380 grounded at least to 2023. Up to100 planes grounded, during one year https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53173929

It's means only 26 planes, will fy ?!!!!!!! :shock:

WestJet is cutting over 3 000 jobs out 10 000

https://blog.westjet.com/westjet-announ ... ts-future/


Aviation services firm Swissport to cut more than 4,500 UK jobs

Airport trade body warns up to 20,000 jobs in UK at risk as result of coronavirus crisis: https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... oronavirus

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