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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Ozzie1969 » 21 Mar 2020, 21:27

Can you imagine the rush on plane tickets once this corona crisis is officially over and done with ?

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Poiu » 21 Mar 2020, 22:16

Ozzie1969 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 21:27
Can you imagine the rush on plane tickets once this corona crisis is officially over and done with ?
I don’t think so, many people are unemployed, many businesses will go bankrupt or be short on cash at best, businessmen will have months to get used to other means of communication.
It will take a year, if not more, before, what is leftover of aviation starts recovering.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2020, 23:21

About passenger aircraft used to carry freight: Two Austrian Airlines Boeing 777-200ER aircraft are currently en route to Xiamen in China in order to collect medical equipment for Austria: flights AUA6021 (OE-LPC) and AUA6023 (OE-LPD).
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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Poiu » 22 Mar 2020, 08:21

Luke777 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 10:07
Should we not better state in reverse: Impact of Aviation on Corona ??
Indeed, three weeks ago I was shot down in fire on this forum for pointing out that Brussels Airlines was putting passengers in aircraft without fresh air despite EASA recommendations.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by B737229 » 22 Mar 2020, 08:34

Someone has info on the status of Qatar Airways flights .
Are they continuing flights to BRU ? Untill when ?

Same for SYD ? Still operating and till when ?

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by shockcooling » 22 Mar 2020, 08:41

Poiu wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 08:21
Luke777 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 10:07
Should we not better state in reverse: Impact of Aviation on Corona ??
Indeed, three weeks ago I was shot down in fire on this forum for pointing out that Brussels Airlines was putting passengers in aircraft without fresh air despite EASA recommendations.
F*ck me, there are other airlines to write rubbish about6🙄 I'm gonna foe you like flanker!

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Post by luchtzak » 22 Mar 2020, 08:58

ME3 are always happy to post news about new aircraft or new destinations, but will never post negative news. This is what I could find on social media, no press releases issued!

Emirates to ground majority of 115 A380 jets, reduce operations, says “deeper cuts” coming
Qatar Airways will reduce entire operation by 75%, grounding jets
Etihad Airways suspends multiple routes, will significantly reduce operation/workforce

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Poiu » 22 Mar 2020, 09:02

shockcooling wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 08:41
F*ck me, there are other airlines to write rubbish about6🙄 I'm gonna foe you like flanker!
No problem, go ahead, put your head in the sand! You can fool yourself, but it won’t change the world around you.

I was only giving an example that three weeks only a few were taking this serious, not only at SN of course!
A mate is working for easyJet in Milan, three weeks ago their COO came to visit them and said: “don’t worry, this is about China, here it will be business as usual”.....

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Conti764 » 22 Mar 2020, 11:26

I wonder what Covid-19 will change in aviation on the longer term. Less hub to hub and hub to spoke flying and more point to point? The latter might prove easier to cope with future (major) disruptions.

Covid-19 is considered the biggest global crisis since WW2 and might be a turning point like we've had many before... Many industries will be changed and affected.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by globetrotter » 22 Mar 2020, 11:28

British Airways has suspended Pakistan.

Turkish Airlines operating ferry flights to Pakistan only picking up passengers from there, this is a regular service not evacuation, what a joke.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by globetrotter » 22 Mar 2020, 11:33

Chinese carriers increasing frequency and capacity to US, China Southern to reintroduce A380 to Los Angeles up from 787, their A380s were grounded till now.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Poiu » 22 Mar 2020, 11:44

globetrotter wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 11:33
Chinese carriers increasing frequency and capacity to US, China Southern to reintroduce A380 to Los Angeles up from 787, their A380s were grounded till now.
By doing this they are creating the perfect conditions for a second wave of COVID 19!

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Conti764 » 22 Mar 2020, 12:03

Poiu wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 11:44
globetrotter wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 11:33
Chinese carriers increasing frequency and capacity to US, China Southern to reintroduce A380 to Los Angeles up from 787, their A380s were grounded till now.
By doing this they are creating the perfect conditions for a second wave of COVID 19!
Luckily Trump banned Europeans flying to the US... :roll:

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by globetrotter » 22 Mar 2020, 20:08

Quite a few EU and Russian charter carriers still flying to holiday spots in Thailand and Vietnam, weird.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Poiu » 22 Mar 2020, 20:36

globetrotter wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 20:08
Quite a few EU and Russian charter carriers still flying to holiday spots in Thailand and Vietnam, weird.
That will be to bring people back, entry in Thailand is almost impossible for tourists at the moment, you need a medical certificate which states you are virus free and a private health insurance which covers COVID up to 100.000$.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Ozzie1969 » 22 Mar 2020, 21:48

Conti764 wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 12:03
Poiu wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 11:44
globetrotter wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 11:33
Chinese carriers increasing frequency and capacity to US, China Southern to reintroduce A380 to Los Angeles up from 787, their A380s were grounded till now.
By doing this they are creating the perfect conditions for a second wave of COVID 19!
Luckily Trump banned Europeans flying to the US... :roll:
Seeing as Italy has more people dead from COVID-19 then even China, this is a logical decision. Strange that you don't mention the travel ban on people who had been in Iran and China. This ban came 2 weeks before the travel ban on anyone who had been in Europe. Suffering from anti-Trump-virus, are you ? There's no cure for that, it seems.

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by sn26567 » 22 Mar 2020, 22:07

Update from Eurocontrol on the European situation, by airline...

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... and by country:

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Conti764 » 23 Mar 2020, 08:27

Ozzie1969 wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 21:48
Conti764 wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 12:03
Poiu wrote:
22 Mar 2020, 11:44


By doing this they are creating the perfect conditions for a second wave of COVID 19!
Luckily Trump banned Europeans flying to the US... :roll:
Seeing as Italy has more people dead from COVID-19 then even China, this is a logical decision. Strange that you don't mention the travel ban on people who had been in Iran and China. This ban came 2 weeks before the travel ban on anyone who had been in Europe. Suffering from anti-Trump-virus, are you ? There's no cure for that, it seems.
No, I can't stand the guy. Sue me. :roll:

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by Passenger » 23 Mar 2020, 09:03

It seems that the corona virus is no reason for the usual Trump haters to stop their fake news about Trump. For those who want to know what is really going on:

It is standard practice for all countries to allow entry for their own citizens, stranded abroad. There are a lot of Chinese expats living in the U.S., hence increased demand for flights from China to the U.S.

The USA has a travel ban for citizens from Europe, China and Iran. Quote: "...In furtherance of Presidential Proclamations 9984, 9992, 9993, and 9994, which bans the entry of non-U.S. citizens who are from or recently been in China, Iran, or certain European countries, the Department of Homeland Security issued a Notice of Arrival Restrictions requiring American citizens, legal permanent residents, and their immediate families who are returning home to the U.S. to travel through one of 13 airports upon arrival to the U.S., submit to an enhanced entry screening and self-quarantine for 14 days once they reach their final destination..."

Actually, the U.S. applies more severe restrictions for arrivals from China then Belgium does for Belgians returning from Italy or Spain. Quote: "...Upon arrival, travelers will proceed to standard customs processing. They will then continue to an enhanced entry screening where the passenger will be asked about their medical history, current condition, and asked for contact information for local health authorities. Additionally, some passengers will have their temperature taken. After the enhanced entry screening is complete, passengers will be given written guidance about COVID-19 and be allowed to proceed to their final destination. Once home, individuals must immediately self-quarantine in their home and monitor their health in accordance with CDC best practices. In order to ensure compliance, local and State public health officials will contact individuals in the days and weeks following their arrival..."

Source: USA DHS.gov

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Re: Impact of the coronavirus crisis on aviation

Post by sn26567 » 23 Mar 2020, 10:51

An evacuation flight in quarantine conditions, the Belgian Air Force 15 Wing Air Transport is up for the task! Yesterday tourists that were stuck in Tenerife were flown back home by the 21Sqn Airbus A321. The Brussels Military airport personnel created a contained triage zone.

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