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Passenger wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 17:14
For travel professionals however, the negative travel advice is binding.
It’s not clear to me what you mean, do you mind clarifying?

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Alitalia: “even passengers must wear breathing masks to protect safety and health on board”

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/alit ... -on-board/

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USA has just annonced to extend the travel ban to people from the U.K. and the Republic of Ireland...

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Acid-drop wrote: 12 Mar 2020, 08:17 President Trump canceled travel from 26 European countries to the US for the next 30 days, beginning Friday at midnight.

He tweeted the ban would apply to "people not goods" after stock futures tumbled on the prospect of a trade freeze.


My comment : good luck finding enough full freighters to do the same job.
I do not understand this "Shenghen Trump's ban" friday midnight. We are saturday afternoon and AF is flying, SN is flying, LH too. I missed something ?

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nordikcam wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 17:51
I do not understand this "Shenghen Trump's ban" friday midnight. We are saturday afternoon and AF is flying, SN is flying, LH too. I missed something ?
Transit passengers as well as Americans and residents, even coming from a Schengen country, are still allowed to enter the USA.
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Passenger wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 17:14The Foreign Affairs Crisis Center can be reached by phone on 02/5014000 from 9.00am to 8.00pm.
Better have an emergency at the right time of day or in a not too distant time zone, apparently.

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It's not "no flights from Schengen countries", but "no travel for passengers with a passport from a Schengen country".

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Trump also bans flights from Ireland and the UK.
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My messages reflect my personal opinion which may be different than yours. I beleive a forum is made to create a debate so I encourage people to express themselves, the way they want, with the ideas they want. I expect the same understanding in return.

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Passenger wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 00:59
Passenger wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 00:52 First case in Surinam - airspace closed:
http://www.dwtonline.com/laatste-nieuws ... -suriname/

First case in Curacao - airspace closed for flights from Europe:
https://antilliaansdagblad.com/nieuws-m ... uit-europa
Rumours in the local press: sick passenger on SLM-993 AMS-PMB Evelop EC-NBP A330-300, about to land at Paramaribo just now... Airport is in full alert.
https://www.flightradar24.com/SLM993/242c27f4
After landing, there was mutiny onboard that A333 once passengers were asked to board a smaller aircraft where they were supposed to be kept in quarantine.
http://www.dwtonline.com/laatste-nieuws ... uig-bezet/

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Norway closes all airports and seaports for non Norwegian nationals as from monday 08AM CET

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel ... fe004b1913
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With more and more countries around the world banning eachothers airlines/civilians, is a general closure of international airspace possible?

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Conti764 wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:07 With more and more countries around the world banning eachothers airlines/civilians, is a general closure of international airspace possible?
Certainly possible and probably imminent on a European level.

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Poiu wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:30
Conti764 wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:07 With more and more countries around the world banning eachothers airlines/civilians, is a general closure of international airspace possible?
Certainly possible and probably imminent on a European level.
and would be the best to stop spreading the virus ... it's hard for the industry but at this stage the only way to stop it
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EBKT wrote: 12 Mar 2020, 00:30 Malta bans all travel from France, Switzerland, Germany and Spain besides the already existing travel ban for Italy.
My return flight to Brussels last Friday was 100% fully booked! Full of travelers from Germany, France etc... who try to return home. Strange they keep the Brussels (and London) route open as most other destinations are cancelled.

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On African side

Brussels Airlines suspended its service to Burundi: https://twitter.com/Snnews6/status/1238 ... 62/photo/2

Madagascar closes its airspace to flghts to Europe, for 30 days. Air France, Air Austral (Mayotte and Reunion), Turkish Airlines and Air Madagascar (Paris & Marseille) won't be able to operate flights to Madagascar https://actu.orange.mg/madagascar-suspe ... -30-jours/ (French)

RwandAir has suspended its routes to Tel Aviv (French: https://newsaero.info/airlines/coronavi ... ?true=2654) and Mumbai (https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/health/ ... virus-case). Guangzhou service is already closed


Air Namibia suspended its service to Frankfurt: https://twitter.com/newsonnbc/status/12 ... 85/photo/1

African Airlines Face $40 Million Hit in 2020 From Coronavirus: https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03 ... frica.html

Coronavirus: Nigeria’s int’l ticket sales drop by 50% https://punchng.com/coronavirus-nigeria ... rop-by-50/
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Poiu wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:30
Conti764 wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:07 With more and more countries around the world banning eachothers airlines/civilians, is a general closure of international airspace possible?
Certainly possible and probably imminent on a European level.
Nope, cargo keeps flying (and has to).

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Bracebrace wrote: 15 Mar 2020, 08:11
Poiu wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:30
Conti764 wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 22:07 With more and more countries around the world banning eachothers airlines/civilians, is a general closure of international airspace possible?
Certainly possible and probably imminent on a European level.
Nope, cargo keeps flying (and has to).
It's about passengers flights here...
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Poiu wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 17:22
Passenger wrote: 14 Mar 2020, 17:14 For travel professionals however, the negative travel advice is binding.
It’s not clear to me what you mean, do you mind clarifying?
The new legislation on package travel (Belgian law 21/11/2017) says that touroperators must be able to execute the travel contract. When an authority tells them they won’t be able to do that, they must adapt the voyage. But there is no possibility to adapt when the return flight is cancelled/forbitten. Sending travellers abroad now could make them stranded, which is already a high financial risk. But it's irresponsible behaviour with the high risk of corona, hence they must cancel.

Individual passengers are allowed to ignore the travel advise, but they then must carry the consequences. Examples of what could happen: airlines may waive assistance and costs because the passenger knew the risk, travel and/or medical insurances will waive claims, they can’t get consular assistance for free when they are stranded, …

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I think that - looking at the rapid spread of the virus - more governments will decide to lock down countries and that many more airlines will stop flying for the coming weeks.

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