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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Inquirer » 17 Mar 2020, 13:31

Belga reports that Brussels Airlines will halt all its flights as from Friday till (at least) April 20th.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by rwandan-flyer » 17 Mar 2020, 13:38

Here is the statement. From 21 March to 19 April

https://press.brusselsairlines.com/brus ... l-19-april#

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by pijaleu » 18 Mar 2020, 09:35

As a consequence, CR9's returning to DUB (STD 11:00)

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by sn26567 » 18 Mar 2020, 11:03

Another consequence: Brussels Airlines requests 200 million euros from the Government to avoid bankruptcy. As Lufthansa in Germany, Swiss in Switzerland and Austrian in Austria...

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... ian-state/
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Inquirer » 18 Mar 2020, 11:40

Not really related to B.air itself, but rather Belgian aviation as a whole:

According to de Live newsfeed of De Tijd, a formal demand for public financial support has also been made by 2 other passenger airlines of our country, TUIfly and Air Belgium.
No news about Air Antwerp (yet).

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by b.lufthansa » 18 Mar 2020, 13:23

Passenger wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 10:24
Extreme agression on a SN flight:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... t-him.html
I am totally against this kind of agression, but fingerpointing towards a passenger like this does not solve the situation. She gave the passenger a light slap, and he responded with a heavy hit.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Sam V » 18 Mar 2020, 18:03

b.lufthansa wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 13:23
Passenger wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 10:24
Extreme agression on a SN flight:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... t-him.html
I am totally against this kind of agression, but fingerpointing towards a passenger like this does not solve the situation. She gave the passenger a light slap, and he responded with a heavy hit.
video from FB if you want to avoid the daily mail

https://www.facebook.com/10000155451399 ... 092817546/

one mail at a time did an article too
https://onemileatatime.com/flight-atten ... passenger/

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by sean1982 » 18 Mar 2020, 19:03

Sam V wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 18:03
b.lufthansa wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 13:23
Passenger wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 10:24
Extreme agression on a SN flight:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... t-him.html
I am totally against this kind of agression, but fingerpointing towards a passenger like this does not solve the situation. She gave the passenger a light slap, and he responded with a heavy hit.
video from FB if you want to avoid the daily mail

https://www.facebook.com/10000155451399 ... 092817546/

one mail at a time did an article too
https://onemileatatime.com/flight-atten ... passenger/
I mostly agree with that article, although I still feel like hitting a pax first is a big no no

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by DeltaWiskey » 19 Mar 2020, 16:03

As from this year, Brussels Airlines will officially be included in the reporting of LH Group Network Airlines:

"Brussels Airlines is managed by Network Airlines as of the start of financial year 2020 and has therefore been allocated to the Network Airlines segment."

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... 2019-e.pdf

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 20 Mar 2020, 03:38

DeltaWiskey wrote:
19 Mar 2020, 16:03
As from this year, Brussels Airlines will officially be included in the reporting of LH Group Network Airlines:

"Brussels Airlines is managed by Network Airlines as of the start of financial year 2020 and has therefore been allocated to the Network Airlines segment."

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... 2019-e.pdf

Nice and much awaited move !

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Atlantis » 21 Mar 2020, 12:49

Finally some time to write here something after a very hectic time. Sorry if the question was already but I had no time to read everything

On our Brucargo it is now busier than ever. Really a lot of cargo flights and even more to come. There is even lack of capacity as belly cargo felt away.
Would it not be an idea, with the free airplanes of SN, to use their A330 as cargo planes? Prices for cargo are now 5 times higher than before. This could generate really a lot of money for SN in this difficult times.
We really need more cargo planes now

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 21 Mar 2020, 13:49

Papa is back.

I mean that OO-SFP has returned to EBBR today.

OO-SFP 20200321.png

She had flown only 4 services in early October 2019 before being based in Düsseldorf.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2020, 13:58

Homo Aeroportus wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 13:49
Papa is back.

I mean that OO-SFP has returned to EBBR today.

She had flown only 4 services in early October 2019 before being based in Düsseldorf.

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Not enough room for storage in Düsseldorf?
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Darjeeling » 21 Mar 2020, 14:21

Atlantis wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 12:49
Finally some time to write here something after a very hectic time. Sorry if the question was already but I had no time to read everything

On our Brucargo it is now busier than ever. Really a lot of cargo flights and even more to come. There is even lack of capacity as belly cargo felt away.
Would it not be an idea, with the free airplanes of SN, to use their A330 as cargo planes? Prices for cargo are now 5 times higher than before. This could generate really a lot of money for SN in this difficult times.
We really need more cargo planes now
I've read American Airlines is doing that with the 77W bellies at the moment. Not a bad idea, considering SN's more recent A333s have an interesting cargo payload capacity.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 21 Mar 2020, 14:40

sn26567 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 13:58
Homo Aeroportus wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 13:49
Papa is back.

I mean that OO-SFP has returned to EBBR today.

She had flown only 4 services in early October 2019 before being based in Düsseldorf.

H.A.
Not enough room for storage in Düsseldorf?
OO-SFP went straight to stand 174.
Gate A74 or T74? I doubt there is any border control at the end of the A Pier and there is no long haul planned for SN.

OO-SFP at A Pier.png

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by FLYAIR10 » 21 Mar 2020, 15:57

Atlantis wrote: ↑21 Mar 2020, 12:49
Finally some time to write here something after a very hectic time. Sorry if the question was already but I had no time to read everything

On our Brucargo it is now busier than ever. Really a lot of cargo flights and even more to come. There is even lack of capacity as belly cargo felt away.
Would it not be an idea, with the free airplanes of SN, to use their A330 as cargo planes? Prices for cargo are now 5 times higher than before. This could generate really a lot of money for SN in this difficult times.
We really need more cargo planes now
I've read American Airlines is doing that with the 77W bellies at the moment. Not a bad idea, considering SN's more recent A333s have an interesting cargo payload capacity.
I was thinking the same. What would be the maximum theoretical capacity of the 'new' A333's on let's say BRU-Monrovia or BRU-Kinshasa? Would it be about 40 tons cargo payload? (non-stop)

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 21 Mar 2020, 16:25

FLYAIR10 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 15:57
Atlantis wrote: ↑21 Mar 2020, 12:49
Finally some time to write here something after a very hectic time. Sorry if the question was already but I had no time to read everything

On our Brucargo it is now busier than ever. Really a lot of cargo flights and even more to come. There is even lack of capacity as belly cargo felt away.
Would it not be an idea, with the free airplanes of SN, to use their A330 as cargo planes? Prices for cargo are now 5 times higher than before. This could generate really a lot of money for SN in this difficult times.
We really need more cargo planes now
I've read American Airlines is doing that with the 77W bellies at the moment. Not a bad idea, considering SN's more recent A333s have an interesting cargo payload capacity.
I was thinking the same. What would be the maximum theoretical capacity of the 'new' A333's on let's say BRU-Monrovia or BRU-Kinshasa? Would it be about 40 tons cargo payload? (non-stop)
An A333 is about 40 t on 4000NM but SN has passenger aircraft, not cargo specific.

In the cargo hold you can load up to 32 ULDs. 18 LD3 in the FWD hold and 14 in the AFT hold.
Problem would be to use the main deck I guess. Getting rid of the seats is one thing but then you are still to bulk load (passenger entrance door width limitation). Also how to restrain the packages?

But most probably an opportunity indeed.

Can we imagine that one day we won't have to buy masks in China and have these produced here?
Former CEO Wilfried Van Assche would have quickly realized the potential of a biiig manufacturer of hygiene products located in Buggenhout. ;)

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by Atlantis » 21 Mar 2020, 17:52

FLYAIR10 wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 15:57
Atlantis wrote: ↑21 Mar 2020, 12:49
Finally some time to write here something after a very hectic time. Sorry if the question was already but I had no time to read everything

On our Brucargo it is now busier than ever. Really a lot of cargo flights and even more to come. There is even lack of capacity as belly cargo felt away.
Would it not be an idea, with the free airplanes of SN, to use their A330 as cargo planes? Prices for cargo are now 5 times higher than before. This could generate really a lot of money for SN in this difficult times.
We really need more cargo planes now
I've read American Airlines is doing that with the 77W bellies at the moment. Not a bad idea, considering SN's more recent A333s have an interesting cargo payload capacity.
I was thinking the same. What would be the maximum theoretical capacity of the 'new' A333's on let's say BRU-Monrovia or BRU-Kinshasa? Would it be about 40 tons cargo payload? (non-stop)
And with cargo on both ways would be even more profitable. There is a huge need to/from Asia and The States/South America and Africa.

As planes will be on the ground till May, they can do the effort in preparing them for cargo.

The demand is really huge that for sure they pay you a really high price and prices are already 5 times higher.

It would be really good for their cash flow and our market will be served as well

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2020

Post by longwings » 21 Mar 2020, 17:55

Darjeeling wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 14:21
Atlantis wrote:
21 Mar 2020, 12:49
Finally some time to write here something after a very hectic time. Sorry if the question was already but I had no time to read everything

On our Brucargo it is now busier than ever. Really a lot of cargo flights and even more to come. There is even lack of capacity as belly cargo felt away.
Would it not be an idea, with the free airplanes of SN, to use their A330 as cargo planes? Prices for cargo are now 5 times higher than before. This could generate really a lot of money for SN in this difficult times.
We really need more cargo planes now
I've read American Airlines is doing that with the 77W bellies at the moment. Not a bad idea, considering SN's more recent A333s have an interesting cargo payload capacity.
American is doing it with various aircraft, BA is flying 787s and 777s to India and South Asia for cargo only, Air Hong Kong is flying A330s into China and Japan, and Delta has recently announced every aircraft type is available for cargo charter. Bottom line, passenger aircraft are used to move cargo now due to the drop in supply. I've heard Lufthansa may also use some of its A340s for cargo, but no confirmation.

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