BRU Winter 2020-2021: news, new routes, airlines

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larsV wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 02:09 Hopefully the return of SQ to Brussels does not hurt TG too much.
As I travel alot between Vietnam and Belgium, the return of SQ is a nice alternative to Thai and Cathay but I am not sure if three airlines serving the same area (TG, CX and SQ) is sustainable in the long run.
I wouldn’t be scared of TG leaving: it’s the only connection with Thailand and there is high tourism demand. CX however sees traffic declining with double digits due to the political situation in Hong Kong. Also TG flies more frequent so has more room to decrease the frequency if needed.

In general even after SQ arriving BRU still has rather limited flights to Asia: MXP, CPH and other comparable European airports see more Asian flights. Reason of course is that Belgium is by far the largest economy of Europe of which the flag carrier doesn’t fly to any destination in Asia.

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I'd more question the ME3-operations at BRU as they mainly rely on connecting passengers.

Thai has recently added a 6th frequency. I'm pretty sure they knew it was only a matter of time when SQ would announce the BRU-resumption.

Let's hope for a new connection to India and South Korea. The A350-900 and the 787-8 seem to be a perfect fit for "starters" at BRU.

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Jetter wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 09:12
larsV wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 02:09 Hopefully the return of SQ to Brussels does not hurt TG too much.
As I travel alot between Vietnam and Belgium, the return of SQ is a nice alternative to Thai and Cathay but I am not sure if three airlines serving the same area (TG, CX and SQ) is sustainable in the long run.
I wouldn’t be scared of TG leaving: it’s the only connection with Thailand and there is high tourism demand. CX however sees traffic declining with double digits due to the political situation in Hong Kong. Also TG flies more frequent so has more room to decrease the frequency if needed.

In general even after SQ arriving BRU still has rather limited flights to Asia: MXP, CPH and other comparable European airports see more Asian flights. Reason of course is that Belgium is by far the largest economy of Europe of which the flag carrier doesn’t fly to any destination in Asia.
I was surprised to see BKK so high up in the list of international flights out of BRU. Right at the first year of operation it entered the top-10, surpassing ORD. Surprised because TG is often mentioned as one of the carriers BRU might loose in the not so distant future due to financial woos. But it seems TG is doing pretty good at BRU.

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skumfiduse wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 11:42 I'd more question the ME3-operations at BRU as they mainly rely on connecting passengers.

Thai has recently added a 6th frequency. I'm pretty sure they knew it was only a matter of time when SQ would announce the BRU-resumption.

Let's hope for a new connection to India and South Korea. The A350-900 and the 787-8 seem to be a perfect fit for "starters" at BRU.
DXB is the second busiest long haul destination from BRU, only after NYC (JFK+EWR), DOH is sixt and saw a healthy growth from 2017 tot 2018, only AUH had a decline in passengers from 2017 to 2018.

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larsV wrote: 17 Dec 2019, 02:09 Hopefully the return of SQ to Brussels does not hurt TG too much.
As I travel alot between Vietnam and Belgium, the return of SQ is a nice alternative to Thai and Cathay but I am not sure if three airlines serving the same area (TG, CX and SQ) is sustainable in the long run.
Good question, and TG is in the problems plus, the fares seems higher

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I believe TG does well at Brussels at the moment. Business class is almost always full. I am surprised they haven't moved to daily yet.
They only recently started to Vienna and frequencies were increased there very quickly, even though Austrian also flies to Bangkok.
I think SQ can hurt TG in Brussels because TG has quite alot of transit passengers that don't have BKK as their final destination.
And another advantage of SQ compared to TG is that they have a premium economy class.

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Maybe for us?
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Uganda airlines used to fly to BRU in the past, with 707..I think sunday afternoons and on another day too..Lets hope they will return, maybe on a stop to London.
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TLspotting wrote: 07 Jan 2020, 21:49 Maybe for us?
The post says it already:

Europe: London
Middle East: Dubai
Asia: China and India.

You use already one aircraft on the route to London. Not much is left with only 2 aircraft
But let's hope

Latest info is that the A330NEO will be delivered in the first half of 2021

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Atlantis wrote: 12 Jan 2020, 18:21
TLspotting wrote: 07 Jan 2020, 21:49 Maybe for us?
The post says it already:

Europe: London
Middle East: Dubai
Asia: China and India.

You use already one aircraft on the route to London. Not much is left with only 2 aircraft
But let's hope

Latest info is that the A330NEO will be delivered in the first half of 2021
They say "among others". It is obvious that the first routes will be the ones listed in their tweet, but they are looking at other destinations.
Like you say: let's hope.

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Finnair to launch Brussels - Kittilä from 19 December 2020, with a weekly flight.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/finn ... xt-winter/
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easyJet first flight from Brussels to Berlin Brandenburg on 1 November 2020 :

EC5013 BER-BRU 18:00 - 19:30
EC5014 BRU-BER 20:00 - 21:30
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I don't know if this means anything but Singapore Airlines in recent inventory update filed changes to its planned Singapore – Brussels service, scheduled to resume on 25OCT20. As of 0645GMT 22APR20, the Star Alliance carrier is only accepting reservation in full-fare Z / S / Y-class (Business, Premium Economy and Economy) for this 4 weekly flights.

Further update will be posted once the airline files additional changes in the future.

SQ304 SIN2355 – 0650+1BRU 359 x126
SQ303 BRU1120 – 0655+1SIN 359 x237

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-22apr20/

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theeuropean wrote: 22 Apr 2020, 12:57 I don't know if this means anything but Singapore Airlines in recent inventory update filed changes to its planned Singapore – Brussels service, scheduled to resume on 25OCT20. As of 0645GMT 22APR20, the Star Alliance carrier is only accepting reservation in full-fare Z / S / Y-class (Business, Premium Economy and Economy) for this 4 weekly flights.

Further update will be posted once the airline files additional changes in the future.

SQ304 SIN2355 – 0650+1BRU 359 x126
SQ303 BRU1120 – 0655+1SIN 359 x237

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-22apr20/
That doesn’t look good... It is not possible to book BRU-SIN anymore on there website. I tried some date’s in December. Only 1-stop via FRA, MUC, AMS and LHR.

Maybe some changes will be made in the future. But I think there planned relaunch will be postponed.

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theeuropean wrote: 22 Apr 2020, 12:57 I don't know if this means anything but Singapore Airlines in recent inventory update filed changes to its planned Singapore – Brussels service, scheduled to resume on 25OCT20. As of 0645GMT 22APR20, the Star Alliance carrier is only accepting reservation in full-fare Z / S / Y-class (Business, Premium Economy and Economy) for this 4 weekly flights.

Further update will be posted once the airline files additional changes in the future.

SQ304 SIN2355 – 0650+1BRU 359 x126
SQ303 BRU1120 – 0655+1SIN 359 x237

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-22apr20/
Singapore Airlines continues to display reservation available in following full fare booking classes from 25OCT20: Z / S / Y. This is being displayed until 31MAR21, as reservation for all fare classes is now available for travel on/after 01APR21.

SQ304 SIN2355 – 0750+1BRU 359 x126
SQ303 BRU1220 – 0655+1SIN 359 x237

Normally restart from summer 2021.

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BRU placed 9th among Western European airports in the World Airport Awards. The full list:

Best Airports in Western Europe 2020
1 Amsterdam Schiphol
2 London Heathrow
3 Paris CDG
4 London City
5 London Gatwick
6 Paris Orly
7 Dublin
8 Birmingham
9 Brussels
10 London Stansted
https://www.worldairportawards.com/best ... by-region/

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Jetter wrote: 11 May 2020, 14:13 BRU placed 9th among Western European airports in the World Airport Awards. The full list:

Best Airports in Western Europe 2020
1 Amsterdam Schiphol
2 London Heathrow
3 Paris CDG
4 London City
5 London Gatwick
6 Paris Orly
7 Dublin
8 Birmingham
9 Brussels
10 London Stansted
https://www.worldairportawards.com/best ... by-region/
Strange: Munich is not even in the list, while today it published a press release claiming that it was number one in Europe (and number 5 in the world): https://www.munich-airport.com/press-ma ... ds-9016754

... unless Munich is not considered as being part of Western Europe :lol:

I've always considered Skytrax as very subjective.
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sn26567 wrote: 11 May 2020, 18:52
Jetter wrote: 11 May 2020, 14:13 BRU placed 9th among Western European airports in the World Airport Awards. The full list:

Best Airports in Western Europe 2020
1 Amsterdam Schiphol
2 London Heathrow
3 Paris CDG
4 London City
5 London Gatwick
6 Paris Orly
7 Dublin
8 Birmingham
9 Brussels
10 London Stansted
https://www.worldairportawards.com/best ... by-region/
Strange: Munich is not even in the list, while today it published a press release claiming that it was number one in Europe (and number 5 in the world): https://www.munich-airport.com/press-ma ... ds-9016754

... unless Munich is not considered as being part of Western Europe :lol:
Germany is indeed considered Central Europe for these awards. BRU competed against Dutch, British, Irish and French airports.

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Hi,

The moment I saw Heathrow,Birmingham and Stansted in the list .. I knew enough 🙄

No trace of BCN, MUC, ZRH....

Guess those People tought the other way around haha

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737MAX wrote: 11 May 2020, 19:14
Jetter wrote: 11 May 2020, 19:08
Germany is indeed considered Central Europe for these awards. BRU competed against Dutch, British, Irish and French airports.
Aha ! That's like awarding the best cars in Europe without Porsche, Audi & BMW... :roll:
It's an award for "Best Airports in Western Europe 2020". ZRH and ZRH are definitely not "Western Europe", but "Central Europe". There are a categories for "Western, "Northern", "Central", Sourthern" and "Eastern". The top 10 for Europe is

1. MUC
2. AMS
3. ZRH
4. LHR
5. FRA
6. HEL
7. VIE
8. CPH
9. CDG
10. HAM

In the total list BRU didn't made it to the first 100, but who takes this ranking serious when Malta, Medina and Guayaquil airport are in the top 100 whilst BRU isn't.....

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