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koninckske
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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by koninckske » 26 Oct 2019, 20:23

More expensive? Yes and no

Yes if you buy a long time before the flight.

No if you book last minute fe. Next Monday and return on Tuesday. Let's take the afternoon flights: KLM 620 EUR (basic fare) and with Air Antwerp only 264 EUR (economy).

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by koninckske » 26 Oct 2019, 20:44

Btw wondering what the plan is with the second F50 (rumour is that it will arrive soon). Zurich again maybe?

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by skumfiduse » 26 Oct 2019, 21:36

koninckske wrote:
26 Oct 2019, 20:23
More expensive? Yes and no

Yes if you buy a long time before the flight.

No if you book last minute fe. Next Monday and return on Tuesday. Let's take the afternoon flights: KLM 620 EUR (basic fare) and with Air Antwerp only 264 EUR (economy).
I would expect them to sell seats on the same flight at the same fare level, since KLM is Air Antwerp's shareholder.

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 26 Oct 2019, 22:51

skumfiduse wrote:
26 Oct 2019, 18:40
One thing that keeps remarkable though: KLM is selling Air Antwerp flights at a cheaper fare level.
In a codeshare, every airline keeps the freedom to set prices at the level it wants. The only constant is the price that the airline pays to the actual operator of the flight. (That's at least the answer I got once from Johan Maertens, CEO of Air Antwerp).
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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by Passenger » 05 Nov 2019, 10:23

OO-VLS = "Pagadder": .

More tweets:
https://twitter.com/airantwerp

Pagadder:
http://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/definit ... m/pagadder

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by convair » 05 Nov 2019, 11:10

Passenger wrote:
05 Nov 2019, 10:23
OO-VLS = "Pagadder": .

More tweets:
https://twitter.com/airantwerp

Pagadder:
http://www.vlaamswoordenboek.be/definit ... m/pagadder
Why not? But, personally, I think "Brabo" would have been a better fit.

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 05 Nov 2019, 12:19

The name "Pagadder" doesn't mean anything to anyone who is not from Antwerp. International recognition? Come on, you can do better.

Furthermore, several weeks to get a certification for a sticker? Is that a joke?
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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by HansAir » 05 Nov 2019, 13:13

For me this name is the first word in my vocabulary of Antwerp dialect, but I agree that is does not at all reflect international aspirations of a new airline.

And if the name is going to last, why not have it decently painted instead of a sticker?

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by PttU » 10 Nov 2019, 17:22

As mentioned on facebook: according to https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... report.pdf Air Antwerp has been granted 44 weekly slots at London City Airport LCY: 12 more compared to the 32 current flights (5 days x 6 + 1 round-trip on Sunday). This means they can do 6 flights more each week.

That's for Summer 2020, is it already time for a new thread "Air Antwerp in 2020"?

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by ZavCity » 10 Nov 2019, 20:44

Why is TUI mentioned on that Airline/LCY list?
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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by DeltaWiskey » 10 Nov 2019, 22:56

sn26567 wrote:
05 Nov 2019, 12:19
Furthermore, several weeks to get a certification for a sticker? Is that a joke?
If you don't know what is involved, don't make such a ridiculous statement. :roll:

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 10 Nov 2019, 23:20

DeltaWiskey wrote:
10 Nov 2019, 22:56
sn26567 wrote:
05 Nov 2019, 12:19
Furthermore, several weeks to get a certification for a sticker? Is that a joke?
If you don't know what is involved, don't make such a ridiculous statement. :roll:
Then please tell us what is involved, so that all our readers can benefit from your experience.
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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by ironspan » 11 Nov 2019, 00:03

Putting stickers on a plane is not a simple process, as some of you think.

1. Material: the stickers used cannot be bought in a standard shop like Carrefour. A technical drawing describing every detail has to be made, the stickers may not be applied to any component that gets warm during the flight or on any moving part that would require ground engineers to perform more maintenance. The stickers can’t just fall off after one or two flights. For that reason, the materials are tested in temperatures ranging from -50° C. to 110° C.

2. Application: The sticker is divided into layers. Each layer is applied using a squeegee, pressing from the inside out. If a bubble appears, it needs to be popped with a needle. Also, an extra layer varnish is sprayed all around the edges because the application tape is only 65 micrometres thick. The entire process requires a couple of hours.

So, when AA said they need a few weeks, it is very understandable. I guess they will give the name ’Pagadder’ a special design, then they need to be ordered following the specs mentioned earlier, and then the plane has to be standing still for a couple of hours to get the stickers applied in a closed hangar (during the week there is hardly any time because of 3 rotations to LCY).

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Re: Air Antwerp in 2019

Post by AAI » 11 Nov 2019, 09:28

PttU wrote:
10 Nov 2019, 17:22
As mentioned on facebook: according to https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/uploa ... report.pdf Air Antwerp has been granted 44 weekly slots at London City Airport LCY: 12 more compared to the 32 current flights (5 days x 6 + 1 round-trip on Sunday). This means they can do 6 flights more each week.

That's for Summer 2020, is it already time for a new thread "Air Antwerp in 2020"?
as OST insist to have their connection with UK, it could be possible that the second ANR flight becomes a
ANR LCY OST LCY ANR.

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