Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi - Impact on Boeing 737 MAX

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Re: Crashes and serious incidents/accidents in 2019

Post by Adv » 10 Mar 2019, 10:07

It was a very new MAX 8. It was delivered on November 2018.

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Re: Crashes and serious incidents/accidents in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 10 Mar 2019, 11:10

It looks like the 737 MAX has a lot of youth problems, unfortunately resulting in loss of human lives...

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Re: Crashes and serious incidents/accidents in 2019

Post by tsv » 10 Mar 2019, 11:13

Some are calling for 737 MAX to be grounded. Don't think this will happen yet but will certainly happen if the issue proves to be related to the issue that caused the Lion Air Crash.

In the meantime for me if it's Boeing I ain't going.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by TLspotting » 10 Mar 2019, 11:42

Everyone died...
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by regi » 10 Mar 2019, 11:54

Arriving back at BRU last Friday I saw the big Ethiopian Airlines waiting for its next trip. And I was thinking " that is an airline I still have to take "
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by sean1982 » 10 Mar 2019, 13:23

Maybe about time this plane is grounded, especially since early indications are again related to pitch instability after take off.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by jan_olieslagers » 10 Mar 2019, 14:43

Maybe too early for that sort of early speculation.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by SR20 » 10 Mar 2019, 16:48

1 belgian officially reported on board !

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by jan_olieslagers » 10 Mar 2019, 16:55

157 dead indeed, R.I.P. Their nationality is not really relevant, I should think.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by ZavCity » 10 Mar 2019, 17:14

100 % agree on that.They are PEOPLE, not NATIONALITIES..And indeed I wonder how Boeing is going to react..
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by leopoldm » 10 Mar 2019, 17:24

Almost 350 dead in less than 6 months time, with the same type, brand new airplane less than 15 minutes after take-off ...
R.I.P. and condolences to the families and friends.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by jan_olieslagers » 10 Mar 2019, 17:32

IF (and it is a big IF as of yet!) there were found a basic problem with the aircraft type, that would be a big issue for the manufacturer, yes. But it seems an even bigger issue for whoever issued its airworthiness certificate.

(please read between the lines: the investigation of this and the other accident will conclude either faulty maintenance or pilot error. But never any flaw in the design or certification. Especially in the last case, given the heavy US-implication in the airline's rapid growth.)
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by travellover » 10 Mar 2019, 17:37

I took ET six times last november. Great airline. Bad destiny for the casualties. So many different nationalities on this important airlink between both eastern african capital cities.

Waiting for more investigations results about what caused the dramatic crash of such a brand new manufactory Boeing 737 MAX 800 :shock: :roll: ?!

Sad as always.

RIP and regards for all the relatives and friends.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by sean1982 » 10 Mar 2019, 19:01

jan_olieslagers wrote:
10 Mar 2019, 14:43
Maybe too early for that sort of early speculation.
It's not speculation, early analysis of flight data show again oscilliations in altitude and speed, as with the Lion air crash. 346 dead people in a few months time with possibly the same underlying cause, that should trigger a bigger response.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by luchtzak » 11 Mar 2019, 02:18

Chinese authorities have temporarily grounded the Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft on all their domestic routes, Cayman Airlines has grounded both aircraft.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by SR20 » 11 Mar 2019, 07:29

luchtzak wrote:
11 Mar 2019, 02:18
Chinese authorities have temporarily grounded the Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft on all their domestic routes, Cayman Airlines has grounded both aircraft.
Looks like a wise decision to me !
Shouldn't TUI do the same ?

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by telspace2005 » 11 Mar 2019, 07:56

Knowing that your next flight is with a 737 Max 8, can you cancel or change your flight without prejudice?

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by 737MAX » 11 Mar 2019, 08:19

telspace2005 wrote:
11 Mar 2019, 07:56
Knowing that your next flight is with a 737 Max 8, can you cancel or change your flight without prejudice?
Of course... not.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX crashes between Addis Ababa and Nairobi

Post by Conti764 » 11 Mar 2019, 09:19

From what I gather from the internet, it might not be a design flaw in the 737MAX but more of a hiatus in the manual and/or a lack of training to pilots regarding the MCAS...?

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