BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by TLspotting » 11 Jul 2019, 13:06

11 flights per week instead of 6 on route to BRS.

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by convair » 11 Jul 2019, 23:30

TLspotting wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 13:06
11 flights per week instead of 6 on route to BRS.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... o-bristol/
Now that the EW episode is over (hopefully for good), it's good to see SN taking care of its European network: resuming BRS and Hanover, more flights to BHX and possibly some new destinations as well. That's the way to (carefully!) go in order to improve profitability.
And, btw, any financial/traffic figures released recently?

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by sn26567 » 11 Jul 2019, 23:55

convair wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 23:30
Now that the EW episode is over (hopefully for good), ...
And, btw, any financial/traffic figures released recently?
The June and H1 traffic figures for the LH Group were published today. Brussels Airlines is still considered as part of the Eurowings Group and thus not allowed to publish its own traffic figures

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -2019-4-5/

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by RoMax » 12 Jul 2019, 09:00

sn26567 wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 23:55
convair wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 23:30
Now that the EW episode is over (hopefully for good), ...
And, btw, any financial/traffic figures released recently?
The June and H1 traffic figures for the LH Group were published today. Brussels Airlines is still considered as part of the Eurowings Group and thus not allowed to publish its own traffic figures

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -2019-4-5/
SN and EW even still share a joint management team (ad-interim), there are other more urgent priorities than the seperate reporting of traffic figures...

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by convair » 12 Jul 2019, 21:00

RoMax wrote:
12 Jul 2019, 09:00
sn26567 wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 23:55
convair wrote:
11 Jul 2019, 23:30
Now that the EW episode is over (hopefully for good), ...
And, btw, any financial/traffic figures released recently?
The June and H1 traffic figures for the LH Group were published today. Brussels Airlines is still considered as part of the Eurowings Group and thus not allowed to publish its own traffic figures

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -2019-4-5/
SN and EW even still share a joint management team (ad-interim), there are other more urgent priorities than the seperate reporting of traffic figures...
Most probably; so let's give them some time to get back on their feet. But SN's management will have to take back control of their business in the not too distant future...

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Post by sn26567 » 20 Jul 2019, 14:40

Liberia and Belgium have concluded an air transport agreement aimed at strengthening air services between the two countries.
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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by sn26567 » 21 Jul 2019, 10:52

brussels airlines to operate Washington Dulles service in winter 2019/20 season, from 20FEB20. 4 weekly flights with A330-200

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Kenlybe » 31 Jul 2019, 14:05

This information comes from all the time changes in my GDS, someone will be able to explain it more in detail, but:

Ethiopian will fly non-stop to Brussels on all connections starting November 2019, no more technical stops in Vienna.
Daily (except Tuesday) till 16 December
Fully daily from 17 December onwards

The service continues on to Manchester on most days.

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by sn26567 » 03 Aug 2019, 17:29

In Winter 2019, Brussels Airlines will increase its Birmingham-Brussels route from 17 to 22 weekly flights with a new Monday-Friday rotation. New flights are at:

Code: Select all

SN2045 BRU 1315-1325 BHX CR9 X67
SN2046 BHX 1405-1615 BRU CR9 X67
New flights operated by CityJet on CR9 aircraft

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by theeuropean » 06 Aug 2019, 10:27

Royal Air Maroc increases Brussels service:

Royal Air Maroc in winter 2019 season is expanding service at Brussels Zaventem, reflected in recent schedule update. Planned service increase as follows.

Nador – Brussels eff 30OCT19 Service operates 1 weekly nonstop, compared to 1-stop via Tangier in 1Q19. Note this route is already operating as nonstop in summer 2019, from 02JUL19 to 08SEP19
AT678 NDR1540 – 1830BRU 73G 3
AT679 BRU1150 – 1440NDR 73G 3

Rabat – Brussels eff 30OCT19 Restoration of 3rd weekly flight in winter season since Winter 2015/16 season
AT830 RBA1500 – 1810BRU E90 135
AT831 BRU1910 – 2225RBA E90 135

Tangier – Brussels eff 30OCT19 Dedicated 1 weekly 737-700 service. This route in 1Q19 was operating as Nador – Tangier – Brussels
AT676 TNG0800 – 1050BRU 73G 3
AT677 BRU1930 – 2225TNG 73G 3

Source: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ce-in-w19/

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by theeuropean » 18 Aug 2019, 17:15

An article in check-in.dk Icelandair will increase capacity to Europe in the winter seasons 19/20.

Brussels is one of the most noticeable increases together with Copenhagen, Dublin and Berlin. I think there is an implied measurement of 3% but I am not sure if in this article it relates just to CPH or all the aforementioned airports.

No 737Max aircraft until next year planned.

https://check-in.dk/icelandair-opgiver- ... n-af-2019/

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis » 18 Aug 2019, 20:33

theeuropean wrote:
18 Aug 2019, 17:15
An article in check-in.dk Icelandair will increase capacity to Europe in the winter seasons 19/20.

Brussels is one of the most noticeable increases together with Copenhagen, Dublin and Berlin. I think there is an implied measurement of 3% but I am not sure if in this article it relates just to CPH or all the aforementioned airports.

No 737Max aircraft until next year planned.

https://check-in.dk/icelandair-opgiver- ... n-af-2019/
Hi,

The 3% of increase in seats is between November and December, but this is the general increase.

Indeed, Brussels is one of the only 4 destinations where the will fly more

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by TLspotting » 22 Aug 2019, 17:13

United announcement, nothing for us for W19-20 nor S20.
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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by SabenaForever » 22 Aug 2019, 17:20

TLspotting wrote:
22 Aug 2019, 17:13
United announcement, nothing for us for W19-20 nor S20.
Indeed No BRU


United will add new service from Newark to:

Curacao - weekly seasonal service on Saturdays beginning December 7, 2019
Nice - daily seasonal service starting on May 2, 2019
Palermo - daily seasonal service starting on May 20, 2019

Also add ORD-ZRH and make EWR-FRA/AMS double-daily.

DEN-LHR and SFO-DEL become year-around

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Conti764 » 22 Aug 2019, 18:56

I wonder how UA can be so strong in AMS to fly double daily while AMS is a Skyteam megahub...

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by rwandan-flyer » 22 Aug 2019, 20:24

I wonder how UA can be so strong in AMS to fly double daily while AMS is a Skyteam megahub...
Like CDG, we have 2 flights a day to Dallas, with American Airlines. They have closed Boston, and reduced services to JFK, from 2 to 1 flight a day, when they merge with US Airways. In summer American Airlines operates up to 7 flights a day, at CDG, while CDG is a SkyTeam hub.

United Airlines operates up to 5 flights a day at CDG, in summer. They have closed Houston CDG service, after the merge with Continental Airlines.

But they are quite far away, from Delta Airlines, which operates over 10 flights a day at Cdg.

I guess it's about the market, from these cities. From Amsterdam and Paris Cdg, you have also airlines that operates only with the point to point trafic, to and from USA. So traffic to USA is big.

Amsterdam: Norwegian and TUI Ned
Cdg: XL, Norwegian

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Atlantis » 22 Aug 2019, 21:14

But unbelievable that they can go to double daily on AMS while other airlines cannot.

They all the time increase more at AMS like previously.

From AMS there is even more competition

Really pity....

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by Jetter » 23 Aug 2019, 03:50

Atlantis wrote:
22 Aug 2019, 21:14
But unbelievable that they can go to double daily on AMS while other airlines cannot.

They all the time increase more at AMS like previously.

From AMS there is even more competition
It's surprising indeed. After LHR and JV hubs AMS is their biggest intercontinental destination while AA is quite small at AMS.

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by rwandan-flyer » 23 Aug 2019, 19:34

After Continental / United Merge, United Airlines cut seveal routes to Asia and Europe, from Houston. If you see stats of Houston Airport, traffic didn't really increase since 2012. A year a growth, the year after a big decreased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bu ... al_Airport

United Airlines has expanded t San Fransico and Chicago hubs. If you see, both airports have gained many new routes to Europe and Asia.

AMS-ORD: 9hrs
ORD-DEN: 2h00

After a 9hrs flight, to Chicago, it will take you a little bit over 2hrs to reach, your destination, it's probably better via EWR, where it will take you 4h30 to reach Denver, after a 8h30 flight, from Amsterdam. Same thing, if you fly from USA to Amsterdam. 2hrs to reach Chicago, from Denver. If you can reduce transit time and the flight time, on some parts of routing, it's a good thing.

Same thing with San Fransico. The UA hub at SFO, provides lots connecting on the USA West Coast, from Alaska, to California, Hawaï, in Arizona, and Mexico. You arrive from Europe, after a 11hrs flight, then you fly to Seattle (only 2hrs). Via New York, from Europe (7hrs-8hrs of flight), then from EWR, it takes you 5h to reach Seattle.

With the merger between USA carriers, carriers were able to add more hubs (UA (Houston, Newark), DL (Detroit, Minneapolis) and AA (Philadelphia, Charlotte,...)) or expand their current hub. The goal is to have the highest numbers of passengers, using their hubs. Why not to use the full capacity of Chicago or San Fransisco, for UA ? There are not only New York or Washington in USA.

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Re: BRU Winter 2019-2020: news, new routes, airlines

Post by capetown » 29 Aug 2019, 11:09

From the Thai Airways (Belux) facebook page :

"THAI is very pleased to announce the launch of its 6th weekly direct flight Brussels - Bangkok - Brussels. As from 28th of October 2019, THAI will operate 6 non-stop flights per week on route Brussels - Bangkok and return, all operated by Airbus A350-900 including Royal Silk Class and Economy Class.

You can book our new Monday flight as from today via www.thaiairways.be or via your travelagent in Benelux."

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