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rwandan-flyer
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by rwandan-flyer » 07 Oct 2019, 20:29

Brussels Airlines: the divorce with Eurowings is not yet registered

Three months after announcing its separation from Lufthansa's low cost subsidiary, the Belgian airline is still part of the Eurowings group, pending a strategic plan.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... ncore-acte

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 07 Oct 2019, 21:41

rwandan-flyer wrote:
07 Oct 2019, 20:29
Brussels Airlines: the divorce with Eurowings is not yet registered

Three months after announcing its separation from Lufthansa's low-cost subsidiary, the Belgian airline is still part of the Eurowings group, pending a strategic plan.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... ncore-acte
The article is behind a paywall!But indeed there are many signs that Brussels Airlines is far from having regained its independence from Eurowings: no monthly statistics, no mention of the airline in the LH press releases, etc.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 08 Oct 2019, 00:42

sn26567 wrote:
07 Oct 2019, 21:41
rwandan-flyer wrote:
07 Oct 2019, 20:29
Brussels Airlines: the divorce with Eurowings is not yet registered

Three months after announcing its separation from Lufthansa's low-cost subsidiary, the Belgian airline is still part of the Eurowings group, pending a strategic plan.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... ncore-acte
The article is behind a paywall!But indeed there are many signs that Brussels Airlines is far from having regained its independence from Eurowings: no monthly statistics, no mention of the airline in the LH press releases, etc.
The thing I wonder about is whether LH has made it clear that SN would no longer be part of EW from the moment they anounced it or if they'd become independent from EW on a later time, maybe after the reboot plan is evaluated?

In other words, did LH announce a time schedule for the disintegration of SN from EW?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Jetter » 08 Oct 2019, 01:22

I think SN has to reboot before they become independent from EW. Makes sense to have an alternative plan before changing the current setup as an independent SN without reboot isn't viable.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 09 Oct 2019, 23:24

Brussels Airlines flies daily to Kinshasa again and introduces Premium Economy on African flights.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... n-flights/

Africa World Airlines (Ghana) and Brussels Airlines signed an interline agreement.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by BrightCedars » 11 Oct 2019, 11:25

Flew OO-SNN in Eurowings colors yesterday evening from CPH to BRU. Crew didn't mention anything and it must be a bit confusing to passengers not in the know to end up in this aircraft. Good flight, as usual with SN.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by jan_olieslagers » 11 Oct 2019, 11:31

it must be a bit confusing to passengers
Allow me to have my doubts: I'll bet you that only a few even saw. Like as not you were the only one.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 12 Oct 2019, 12:42

BrightCedars wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 11:25
Flew OO-SNN in Eurowings colors yesterday evening from CPH to BRU. Crew didn't mention anything and it must be a bit confusing to passengers not in the know to end up in this aircraft. Good flight, as usual with SN.
Btw, is there a plan to repaint this aircraft ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by A321Lufthansa » 12 Oct 2019, 16:15

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 12:42
BrightCedars wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 11:25
Flew OO-SNN in Eurowings colors yesterday evening from CPH to BRU. Crew didn't mention anything and it must be a bit confusing to passengers not in the know to end up in this aircraft. Good flight, as usual with SN.
Btw, is there a plan to repaint this aircraft ?
It is so freshly-painted that it would be easier just to send this a/c to EW and swap it for another one.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 12 Oct 2019, 16:45

A321Lufthansa wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 16:15
brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 12:42
BrightCedars wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 11:25
Flew OO-SNN in Eurowings colors yesterday evening from CPH to BRU. Crew didn't mention anything and it must be a bit confusing to passengers not in the know to end up in this aircraft. Good flight, as usual with SN.
Btw, is there a plan to repaint this aircraft ?
It is so freshly-painted that it would be easier just to send this a/c to EW and swap it for another one.
Is this bird still needed after the Thomas Cook demise? No overcapacity for the A320 fleet? Or are they going to launch new routes like DUB or HEL or increase frequencies on existing ones?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Atlantis » 12 Oct 2019, 17:48

Brussels Airlines will for sure fly to leisure destinations. As the new Wamos Benelux is taking over 61 shops, they still have to fly those pax. Wamos fleet is too big to do that on their own. So I'm pretty sure that Wamos will take contact with SN to set up a new contract

Regarding other plans with their fleet we have to wait till we see the reboot plan

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 12 Oct 2019, 18:17

Atlantis wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 17:48
Brussels Airlines will for sure fly to leisure destinations. As the new Wamos Benelux is taking over 61 shops, they still have to fly those pax. Wamos fleet is too big to do that on their own. So I'm pretty sure that Wamos will take contact with SN to set up a new contract

Regarding other plans with their fleet we have to wait till we see the reboot plan
Thanks... when will they communicate regarding the reboot plan ?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by DeltaWiskey » 12 Oct 2019, 21:21

BrightCedars wrote:
11 Oct 2019, 11:25
Flew OO-SNN in Eurowings colors yesterday evening from CPH to BRU. Crew didn't mention anything and it must be a bit confusing to passengers not in the know to end up in this aircraft. Good flight, as usual with SN.
Yes, it can be confusing, but as long as the service on board is still typical Brussels Airlines, passengers will not bother too much. What passengers do complain about are the wet leases, crew not able to speak Dutch/French, different on board product, etc.

There is a plan to repaint the OO-SNN and OO-SFB, but this is currently not at the top of the prio list, especially with the long haul operations still being very challenging operationally.

The reboot plan will be announced by the end of November, maybe December. The impact of Wamos taking over Neckermann is not completely clear yet, but at least there is hope that they will take over some Thomas Cook business.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Poiu » 13 Oct 2019, 04:45

DeltaWiskey wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 21:21
The impact of Wamos taking over Neckermann is not completely clear yet, but at least there is hope that they will take over some Thomas Cook business.
Wamos have an ultra low cost airline branch, so either SN will have to offer very cheap flights either they will operate the flights themselves by flying W patterns and/or night stopping crew and aircraft in Brussels.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by flightlover » 13 Oct 2019, 06:48

Poiu wrote:
13 Oct 2019, 04:45
DeltaWiskey wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 21:21
The impact of Wamos taking over Neckermann is not completely clear yet, but at least there is hope that they will take over some Thomas Cook business.
Wamos have an ultra low cost airline branch, so either SN will have to offer very cheap flights either they will operate the flights themselves by flying W patterns and/or night stopping crew and aircraft in Brussels.
The Wamos division in Belgium (Neckermann) will be focusing on selling packages of other tour operators like Pegase etc.
They are, for the moment at least, not having own package deals. Transport is thus offered by an agreement with one of the tour operators. SN commercial department will have a harder time selling their product in the same quantities as before.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 14 Oct 2019, 10:11

Poiu wrote:
13 Oct 2019, 04:45
DeltaWiskey wrote:
12 Oct 2019, 21:21
The impact of Wamos taking over Neckermann is not completely clear yet, but at least there is hope that they will take over some Thomas Cook business.
Wamos have an ultra low cost airline branch, so either SN will have to offer very cheap flights either they will operate the flights themselves by flying W patterns and/or night stopping crew and aircraft in Brussels.
The only thing I can find about Wamos Air is that they only have widebody aircraft (744 and 332), a little overkill for the markets TC flew through SN, isn't it?

Maybe in time we might see a Wamos aircraft at BRU performing long haul (Caribbean) flights but for most of the flights to the Mediterranean they'd still need a partner, hence the possible continuation of SN.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Darjeeling » 15 Oct 2019, 07:38

Things don't really change at Brussels Airlines... oups sorry... Flemish Airlines !! :roll:

https://www.lalibre.be/economie/entrepr ... 3887e3cd91

The only official "internal" language is "strikt nederlands" and nothing else. :?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Jetter » 15 Oct 2019, 07:46

Darjeeling wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 07:38
Things don't really change at Brussels Airlines... oups sorry... Flemish Airlines !! :roll:

https://www.lalibre.be/economie/entrepr ... 3887e3cd91

The only official "internal" language is "strikt nederlands" and nothing else. :?
That makes sense, as written in the article Brussels airlines and Zaventem are located in Flanders.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by lumumba » 15 Oct 2019, 08:26

That's bul....t Brussels Airlines official address is in Brussels it's a Belgium Airlines why is this they can forget me!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Ansett » 15 Oct 2019, 09:49

Does CF speak Nederlands ?

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