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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Jetter » 16 May 2019, 20:25

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
16 May 2019, 19:55
Time to merge this topic with Eurowings in 2019, no?!
:D That would make sense. Or even better, have two EuroWings topics: one for EuroWings in Belgium and one for their operations abroad.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 17 May 2019, 11:34

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
16 May 2019, 19:55
Time to merge this topic with Eurowings in 2019, no?!
Just a minute, please. The AOCs are not going to be merged any time soon!
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by sonic boom » 25 May 2019, 09:14

Brussels Airlines stopped flying to Sal in Cape Verde?

Also they seem to stop flying to Ohrid in North-Macedonia halfway august

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 25 May 2019, 10:27

Sal, Cape Verde is a winter season destination only.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by airbuske » 25 May 2019, 10:28

sonic boom wrote:
25 May 2019, 09:14
Brussels Airlines stopped flying to Sal in Cape Verde?

Also they seem to stop flying to Ohrid in North-Macedonia halfway august
Normally the last flight to OHD is on the 26th of August
But in the GDS I see indeed the last flight on the 16th of August.

BVC will be cancelled in winter and SID will be two times per week in winter 2019!
Best regards,

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by SkyTourist » 25 May 2019, 12:04

In an interview with Forbes, Carsten Spohr hints at maintaining a hub function for Brussels for intercontinental traffic: "With intercontinental hubs in Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich, Brussels, and Vienna, executives said they have a unique ability to drive connecting traffic via lower cost routings and also enable passengers to hop back and forth between North America and Europe with more routing options."

He also announced dynamic pricing for M&M Award Flights.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan ... 88df192106

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 27 May 2019, 11:10

SkyTourist wrote:
25 May 2019, 12:04
In an interview with Forbes, Carsten Spohr hints at maintaining a hub function for Brussels for intercontinental traffic: "With intercontinental hubs in Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich, Brussels, and Vienna, executives said they have a unique ability to drive connecting traffic via lower cost routings and also enable passengers to hop back and forth between North America and Europe with more routing options."
I think you are a bit overoptimistic here... The hub-remark wasn't a Carsten Spohr quote, but a reflection of the author. Everything LH has done so far hints at a no hub function for BRU and degrading it to just a destination, having EW planes flying customers to one of the groups hubs (FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE).

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 27 May 2019, 11:22

Conti764 wrote:
27 May 2019, 11:10
Everything LH has done so far hints at a no hub function for BRU and degrading it to just a destination, having EW planes flying customers to one of the group's hubs (FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE).
Not exactly: the flights to LH Group hubs are carried out by the network airlines, LH to FRA and MUC, LX to ZRH, OS to VIE.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Matt » 27 May 2019, 14:58

sn26567 wrote:
27 May 2019, 11:22
Conti764 wrote:
27 May 2019, 11:10
Everything LH has done so far hints at a no hub function for BRU and degrading it to just a destination, having EW planes flying customers to one of the group's hubs (FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE).
Not exactly: the flights to LH Group hubs are carried out by the network airlines, LH to FRA and MUC, LX to ZRH, OS to VIE.
Since when is there no flight between BRU and VIE by Brussels Airlines? (SN 2902 ? )

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by TLspotting » 29 May 2019, 23:21

Brussels Airport to welcome A320 OO-SNN, wearing Eurowings livery on Friday, around 15:00 local.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by 77W » 29 May 2019, 23:34

Conti764 wrote:
27 May 2019, 11:10
SkyTourist wrote:
25 May 2019, 12:04
In an interview with Forbes, Carsten Spohr hints at maintaining a hub function for Brussels for intercontinental traffic: "With intercontinental hubs in Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich, Brussels, and Vienna, executives said they have a unique ability to drive connecting traffic via lower cost routings and also enable passengers to hop back and forth between North America and Europe with more routing options."
I think you are a bit overoptimistic here... The hub-remark wasn't a Carsten Spohr quote, but a reflection of the author. Everything LH has done so far hints at a no hub function for BRU and degrading it to just a destination, having EW planes flying customers to one of the groups hubs (FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE).
Actually, today Lufthansa Group posted a video of the group airlines on Linkedin, which in fact supports SkyTourist's theory. At minute 00:30 and 2:06, BRU is mentioned as one of the five hubs with FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE being the others.

Are we perhaps witnessing a glimpse of a strategy shift?

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Conti764 » 30 May 2019, 07:04

77W wrote:
29 May 2019, 23:34
Conti764 wrote:
27 May 2019, 11:10
SkyTourist wrote:
25 May 2019, 12:04
In an interview with Forbes, Carsten Spohr hints at maintaining a hub function for Brussels for intercontinental traffic: "With intercontinental hubs in Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich, Brussels, and Vienna, executives said they have a unique ability to drive connecting traffic via lower cost routings and also enable passengers to hop back and forth between North America and Europe with more routing options."
I think you are a bit overoptimistic here... The hub-remark wasn't a Carsten Spohr quote, but a reflection of the author. Everything LH has done so far hints at a no hub function for BRU and degrading it to just a destination, having EW planes flying customers to one of the groups hubs (FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE).
Actually, today Lufthansa Group posted a video of the group airlines on Linkedin, which in fact supports SkyTourist's theory. At minute 00:30 and 2:06, BRU is mentioned as one of the five hubs with FRA, MUC, ZRH and VIE being the others.

Are we perhaps witnessing a glimpse of a strategy shift?
Let's hope so...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Poiu » 30 May 2019, 08:24

The fact that Brussels Airlines will fly aircraft in EW colors doesn’t change their strategy!
Brussels is a hub and will remain a hub, the color of the aircraft is a fanclub issue which is not taken into account by the beancounters who only see the lower operating cost due to reduced overhead cost and lower T&Cs in the future.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Konus » 30 May 2019, 08:34

airbuske wrote:
25 May 2019, 10:28
sonic boom wrote:
25 May 2019, 09:14
Brussels Airlines stopped flying to Sal in Cape Verde?

Also they seem to stop flying to Ohrid in North-Macedonia halfway august
Normally the last flight to OHD is on the 26th of August
But in the GDS I see indeed the last flight on the 16th of August.

BVC will be cancelled in winter and SID will be two times per week in winter 2019!
I have a confirmed seat reservation on SN3392 flight to Ohrid on 19th of August.

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 30 May 2019, 09:48

TLspotting wrote:
29 May 2019, 23:21
Brussels Airport to welcome A320 OO-SNN, wearing Eurowings livery on Friday, around 15:00 local.
OMG... this is the end...

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Passenger » 30 May 2019, 10:20

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
30 May 2019, 09:48
TLspotting wrote:
29 May 2019, 23:21
Brussels Airport to welcome A320 OO-SNN, wearing Eurowings livery on Friday, around 15:00 local.
OMG... this is the end...
What is your source for the bankruptcy please? Or for the voluntary dissolution (*) of nv/sa Brussels Airlines (and/or nv/sa SN Airholding)?

(*) vrijwillige ontbinding en vereffening

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by TLspotting » 30 May 2019, 10:31

He wanted to say end for Brussels Airlines brand I suppose.
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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by brusselsairlinesfan » 30 May 2019, 11:15

TLspotting wrote:
30 May 2019, 10:31
He wanted to say end for Brussels Airlines brand I suppose.
Exactly

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by Passenger » 30 May 2019, 11:42

brusselsairlinesfan wrote:
30 May 2019, 11:15
TLspotting wrote:
30 May 2019, 10:31
He wanted to say end for Brussels Airlines brand I suppose.
Exactly
That is also contradicted by obvious facts:
the brand name Brussels Airlines still appears on all actual aircraft;
the website still is BrusselsAirlines.be;
all today's publicity and adverts still are for Brussels Airlines;
they have just signed a 5-year commercial agreement (Brussels Airlines & Tourism Flanders) for Bruegel;
the commercial value of the name "Brussels Airlines" in Africa (= an heritage from Sabena) cannot be transmitted to Eurowings.

Allow me to quote very briefly from another site: ...the Brussels Airlines name which for now, given public sentiment in Belgium and executive views, seems to be something that won’t change anytime soon...

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Just wondering what drives brusselsairlinesfan to post, repost, re-repost ande re-re-post "the end of Brussels Airlines is near".

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Re: Brussels Airlines in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 30 May 2019, 11:53

One cannot ignore that SN management seriously discusses a name change, at least for short- and medium-haul. And the fact that the new SN A320 (and all future ones) will be painted in EW colours is a serious sign that the change is occurring now.

Admittedly, the Belgian icons have been painted in SN liveries for five years. This means ONLY five years.

For sure, it does not mean the end of Brussels Airlines. But it certainly means the end of Brussels Airlines as we know it now. And that goes against the feelings of many Belgians, but Carsten Spohr doesn't care...
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