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Omychron wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 07:53 https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-456038/

Let's see how EW longhaul will be affected by this ban?
AFAIK all its longhaul is flown by either Brussels Airlines or SunExpress.
It looks like Trump is striking again! DOT will no longer accept flights operated for European carriers by wet-lease subcontractors. Thus Sun Express will not be allowed to fly to the US for Eurowings. SN being part of Eurowings might be allowed to continue. Did I understand correctly?
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sn26567 wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 10:55
Omychron wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 07:53 https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-456038/
Let's see how EW longhaul will be affected by this ban? AFAIK all its longhaul is flown by either Brussels Airlines or SunExpress.
It looks like Trump is striking again! DOT will no longer accept flights operated for European carriers by wet-lease subcontractors. Thus Sun Express will not be allowed to fly to the US for Eurowings. SN being part of Eurowings might be allowed to continue. Did I understand correctly?
If I understand the article correctly, Trump-strikes-again just adapts the reciprocity principle: "we'll do to you what you do to us". From the article: "...The DOT notes that in September 2008 the EU limited to 14 months authorities for non-EU airlines to engage in wet lease operators for EU airlines. The US had no such restrictions – a discrepancy US airlines claimed hindered their ability to compete for European wet-lease work..."

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Passenger wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 13:47
sn26567 wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 10:55
Omychron wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 07:53 https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-456038/
Let's see how EW longhaul will be affected by this ban? AFAIK all its longhaul is flown by either Brussels Airlines or SunExpress.
It looks like Trump is striking again! DOT will no longer accept flights operated for European carriers by wet-lease subcontractors. Thus Sun Express will not be allowed to fly to the US for Eurowings. SN being part of Eurowings might be allowed to continue. Did I understand correctly?
If I understand the article correctly, Trump-strikes-again just adapts the reciprocity principle: "we'll do to you what you do to us". From the article: "...The DOT notes that in September 2008 the EU limited to 14 months authorities for non-EU airlines to engage in wet lease operators for EU airlines. The US had no such restrictions – a discrepancy US airlines claimed hindered their ability to compete for European wet-lease work..."
No, reciprocity would mean banning US wet-leases amongst US carriers operating into EU. Where a EU ban for US carriers wet-leasing for EU carriers is for a Good reason. They are operating under a different set of FTL rules which are in general less limiting than EU rules, creating a sort of social fraud.

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Affected airlines:

- Cargolux Italia
- Aer Lingus
- Austrian Airlines
- Lufthansa
- Eurowings
- TAP Portugal
- Air Europa

Read more: https://www.aviation24.be/organisations ... -carriers/

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Eurowings and the union Verdi have made a breakthrough in collective bargaining for the approximately 1,000 cabin staff at the airline, however, it has not been finalised yet.
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Eurowings to launch Cologne – Trieste, Dusseldorf – Tirana, and Hamburg to Ankara, Antalya, and Bodrum, in summer 2019 with A319s operated by Germanwings.
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Omychron wrote: 25 Feb 2019, 07:53 https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-456038/

Let's see how EW long-haul will be affected by this ban?
AFAIK all its long-haul is flown by either Brussels Airlines or SunExpress.
Lufthansa Group and United Airlines jointly protest the proposed US government’s limit or termination of wet-lease authorisation granted to certain foreign carriers of the EU.
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Eurowings is in talks with some of its unions about merging its various AOCs to gain efficiencies.
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Eurowings will introduce seasonal summer flights from Stuttgart and Dusseldorf to Ohrid, beginning 21 June 2019.
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Has it been mentioned here that EW will take over the Munich-Bangkok flights from Lufthansa under an LH code? The flights will be done using an Airbus A330-200

LH792 will be taken over by Sun Express Germany, taking away Business class on this route. Starting november the route will be discontinued by LH and taken over completely by EW under LH5446 ( a code share )

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According to De Tijd/L'Echo, Eurowings posted a loss over 2018 as was already reported by LH in today's press release, but Brussels Airlines itself was profitable, before consolidation into Eurowings:
https://www.tijd.be/ondernemen/luchtvaa ... 07324.html
https://www.lecho.be/entreprises/aviati ... 07351.html

Quite a strange attitude on display here not to be more forthcoming and proud even about its own achievements in Belgium, both on the operational front (more than 10M passengers last year) as well as on the financial one (being profitable), but to prefer to report about consolidated group results which are nothing to write home about really.... you'd almost get the impression the resilience and achievements in Belgium are an inconvenience to the German management.
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Matt wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 08:54 Has it been mentioned here that EW will take over the Munich-Bangkok flights from Lufthansa under an LH code? The flights will be done using an Airbus A330-200

LH792 will be taken over by Sun Express Germany, taking away Business class on this route. Starting november the route will be discontinued by LH and taken over completely by EW under LH5446 ( a code share )
in the first place LH said they'll downgrade to the A350
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The SN results are positive, but not enough. SN is not allowed to publish separate figures as part of Eurowings, but they will be released in May by the National Bank of Belgium because every Belgian company has to report them and they are then made public.
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IMHO, what will likely happen is that EW will not yield the "promised" profits on the long term, and I predict that EW will have two pillars (in order to avoid that CS is losing face):
-> Accelerate to replace all LH-flights that have a pressure on the costs (due the higher costs of LH-metal and personnel) and let the flights operate by the cheaper 'wet-lease' EW. Metal is still branded as LH but likely with the words "Operated by Eurowings" or "Operated by CityLine".

-> Focus EW on seasonal high density routes for the tour operators (point-to-point) because of the tour operators negotiate for heavy discounts.

That's likely one of the few options that is left for CS to deliver on his EBIDA promises made to the investors.

The SN is profitable (not much, but still positive); I suspect the profitability is actually higher because SN got A340 metal shoved to them (probably German cabin crew and pilots as well) that increased the OPEX but didn't add much top-line revenue (as SN hadn't a control what they could do with the A340's); so basically it is an artificial and sneaky way to show that SN doesn't deserve investments. (At least that's what I would have done if I was CS's shoes and under pressure to deliver).

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Eurowings plans to offer new seasonal routes to Ohrid, from both Dusseldorf and Stuttgart, beginning in mid-July and June 2019, respectively.
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Following Air Italy now Nordstar of Russia are adopting the purple and blue colours of EW on their first 738max.

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Eurowings this past week opened reservation for its new long-haul routes from Munich, and for the first time, Frankfurt, in winter 2019/20 season. Selected new service will see Lufthansa transferring operation to Eurowings.

Frankfurt – Mauritius eff 25OCT19, 3 weekly A330-200 (Replacing Lufthansa service)

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EW1276 FRA1720 – 0740+1MRU 332 357
EW1277 MRU0930 – 1825  FRA 332 146
Munich – Bangkok eff 27OCT19 1 daily A330-200 (Replacing Dusseldorf – Bangkok as well as Lufthansa service)

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EW1206 MUC1620 – 0850+1BKK 332 D
EW1207 BKK1020 – 1655  MUC 332 D 
Eurowings will also launch following long-haul routes from Frankfurt:

Frankfurt – Barbados eff 28OCT19 3 weekly A330-200

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EW1252 FRA1000 – 1440  BGI 332 135
EW1253 BGI1730 – 0725+1FRA 332 135
Frankfurt – Windhoek eff 29OCT19 3 weekly A330-200

Code: Select all

EW1278 FRA2000 – 0715+1WDH 332 246
EW1279 WDH0935 – 1855  FRA 332 357
Source: routesonline

All flights to be managed by the long-haul competence centre in Brussels!
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For the sake of cost cutting, EW might as well then take over the FRA-ADD from Lufty.

Earlier this week, as I kept wanting to go to Mogadishu despite the multiple flights cancellations due to the ATC strike, I finally ended up flying LH to ADD before an ADD-NBO with ET (in a good old 738NG) :mrgreen:

This LH598 is operated by an A340 (actually flew D-AIGL, the oldest in LH fleet at 23 years) and I was surprised by the very low LF; predominantly ethnic.
I had a chat with the purser and she said it was rather frequent outside of the holidays seasons. On the day of my flight the LF was barely 50% but she said it may even be lower.
Not sure LH makes money in these conditions.

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sn26567 wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 18:19 All flights to be managed by the long-haul competence centre in Brussels!
What is your source for this?
Afaik, SXD flights are not in any way managed from Brussels.

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DeltaWiskey wrote: 18 Mar 2019, 07:37
sn26567 wrote: 16 Mar 2019, 18:19 All flights to be managed by the long-haul competence centre in Brussels!
What is your source for this?
Afaik, SXD flights are not in any way managed from Brussels.
I think it was a tongue in cheek comment from André.

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