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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by convair » 18 Jun 2019, 22:29

Poiu wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 18:56
convair wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 17:21
don’t forget that the EW long haul by SN is a form of money transfer from one unit to another within the same company. If that transfer r stops the results in Brussels will be worse.
Do you have evidence of that? Are these DUS flights profitable?
The profitability of the flights is not relevant!
Ew sells the tickets, SN gets paid for the ACMI, that payment is the same wether the aircraft is full or empty. This has been explained here ad nauseam!

You're right. I had forgotten about the ACMI arrangement in which one may expect SN gets a margin over the costs.
Btw, it is interesting to note that SN has been allowed to rent several aircraft (from LH) in order to have this ACMI contract with EW for these DUS flights that don't seem too successful, but isn't allowed to add one single long-haul aircraft for its own operations.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Poiu » 18 Jun 2019, 22:51

convair wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 22:29
Btw, it is interesting to note that SN has been allowed to rent several aircraft (from LH) in order to have this ACMI contract with EW for these DUS flights that don't seem too successful, but isn't allowed to add one single long-haul aircraft for its own operations.
That one has been explained before as well...
It is a cost cutting exercise, the crews employed by SN on behalf of EW are paid peanuts. Direct employment by EW of long haul crews is restricted by agreements between LH and the unions.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by convair » 18 Jun 2019, 23:08

Poiu wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 22:51
convair wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 22:29
Btw, it is interesting to note that SN has been allowed to rent several aircraft (from LH) in order to have this ACMI contract with EW for these DUS flights that don't seem too successful, but isn't allowed to add one single long-haul aircraft for its own operations.
That one has been explained before as well...
It is a cost cutting exercise, the crews employed by SN on behalf of EW are paid peanuts. Direct employment by EW of long haul crews is restricted by agreements between LH and the unions.
Good to have an expert (or insider?) on board! Thanks Poiu. :)

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Ansett » 18 Jun 2019, 23:26

Thanks for reminding us of a few facts, Poiu
From what I read, it seems that CS/TD have a lot of imagination which does not pay off.
How far to the bottom will they be able to go in terms and wage and working conditions ?
Pathetic !

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Passenger » 18 Jun 2019, 23:39

convair wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 23:08
Good to have an expert (or insider?) on board! Thanks Poiu.
The real insiders are gone here. Sick and tired of all the crap and all the nonsense that is posted about SN and/or LH and/or EW in almost every topic here.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by convair » 19 Jun 2019, 12:22

Passenger wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 23:39
convair wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 23:08
Good to have an expert (or insider?) on board! Thanks Poiu.
The real insiders are gone here. Sick and tired of all the crap and all the nonsense that is posted about SN and/or LH and/or EW in almost every topic here.
Luckily the official gospel is there to bring the lost souls back to the right track. :lol:

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2019, 11:42

In an attempt to get Eurowings back on course, Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr (who might be on his way out soon, too) is likely going to announce drastic changes tomorrow. Possible base closures in Vienna and Palma,...

The Austrian and Belgian AOC (Brussels Airlines) are likely going to be integrated into the German AOC and Germanwings may finally die. EW CEO Dirks is reportedly also facing heavy criticism from employees and the top.

Whatever happens tomorrow, it won’t be good for all parties involved.

Source: HDH Aviation on Twitter, for what it is worth...
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Boeing767copilot » 24 Jun 2019, 10:47

LUFTHANSA announces a re-orientation of Brussels Airlines: closer alignment with Network Airlines; integration into Eurowings will not be further pursued.

The best news ever. :D

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 24 Jun 2019, 15:01

An interesting thought by Luk De Wilde on Twitter: Selling Eurowings to Ryanair, which has yet to set foot in Germany ?

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by jan_olieslagers » 24 Jun 2019, 15:21

Little as I know about commercial air transport, didn't I always understand that the LH group kept EW up mainly for keeping the low-costers out of Germany? Even if it generates little (if any) profit? Would Mr. De Wilde be so privileged as to know first-hand of such a radical change of policy?

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by convair » 24 Jun 2019, 16:20

jan_olieslagers wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 15:21
Little as I know about commercial air transport, didn't I always understand that the LH group kept EW up mainly for keeping the low-costers out of Germany? Even if it generates little (if any) profit? Would Mr. De Wilde be so privileged as to know first-hand of such a radical change of policy?
Maybe not, but it's obviously a good question to ask following the re-positioning and announced clean-up of EW.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by JOVAN » 25 Jun 2019, 05:23

I really cannot understand how CEO's like Spohr, Brito, Ghosn and many many others can get away with the enormous blunders and bad decisions .

They waste billion of Euros and still can keep their position for a long time.

When they are finally are kicked out for poor or even disastrous management , they get a go;lden parachute and after some time come back in another company, another business.

I have known a few CEO's of smaller companies recently and can only conclude they are complete ZZERO's.

I hope that the Ghosn case ( Renault CEO in jail in Japan for months now, for stealing millions from his company) will lead to more arrests of this incompetent and arrogant kind of people.

LUFTHANSA and EUROWINGS are heading for a HOT Summer with many strikes and cancellations, mostly due to Spohrs arrogance and mismanagement.

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by pitrixplanespotting » 25 Jun 2019, 09:13

luchtzak wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 15:01
An interesting thought by Luk De Wilde on Twitter: Selling Eurowings to Ryanair, which has yet to set foot in Germany ?
That might be, but isn't the number 1 goal for any efficient low-cost to operate a single aircraft family? Eurowings operates them all :lol:
I'm not to confident Ryanair wants to buy Eurowings, even for free...

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by C96C » 25 Jun 2019, 09:18

Alert: bad joke incoming!

Eurowings, where every euro gets wings and never comes back...

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 25 Jun 2019, 09:19

pitrixplanespotting wrote:
25 Jun 2019, 09:13
luchtzak wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 15:01
An interesting thought by Luk De Wilde on Twitter: Selling Eurowings to Ryanair, which has yet to set foot in Germany ?
That might be, but isn't the number 1 goal for any efficient low-cost to operate a single aircraft family? Eurowings operates them all :lol:
I'm not to confident Ryanair wants to buy Eurowings, even for free...
Eurowings will get rid of subsidiary LGW and its Q400s. The aim is to have only A320(neo) aircraft.
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by evyncke » 25 Jun 2019, 10:42

Boeing767copilot wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 10:47
LUFTHANSA announces a re-orientation of Brussels Airlines: closer alignment with Network Airlines; integration into Eurowings will not be further pursued.

The best news ever. :D
This is also my reading as a frequent SN traveller and as a friend of pilots/stewards

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Poiu » 25 Jun 2019, 12:28

luchtzak wrote:
24 Jun 2019, 15:01
An interesting thought by Luk De Wilde on Twitter: Selling Eurowings to Ryanair, which has yet to set foot in Germany ?
I think Luk has been in the sun far too long!
LH selling to Mol? Over their dead body!
On the other hand I wouldn’t be surprised at all by a close cooperation between Eurowings and the European branch of easyJet. You read it here first!!
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by theeuropean » 27 Jun 2019, 14:20

A paywall article on ch-aviation, potential closures of non-core EW bases.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... core-bases

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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 27 Jun 2019, 15:38

Eurowings to phase out its oldest nine A320s in 2019, and start returning wet-leased DHC8s, with all turboprops on wet-lease exiting by early 2021, as four A320neos are phased in 2021 and 16 in 2022.

Who said the new aircraft were only for profit-making subsidiaries?
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Re: Eurowings in 2019

Post by Ansett » 28 Jun 2019, 11:22

EW will always be his mother's baby and SN an unwanted stepson.

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