Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by lumumba » 22 Jan 2019, 17:52

The flight from Kinshasa was cancelled this morning there are lot of long haul flights(SN) with problems letely!!!!
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 22 Jan 2019, 20:25

luchtzak wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 16:08
Not everybody was happy with the snow, some tweets.
No directly involved, though I will become more interested in the EBBR Ops pace in a couple of hours if ever my flight shows up for my return flight tonight, but I suggest we integrate the following before pointing fingers :

Local issue.
Holdover time. You may see de/anti-icing trucks idle because there is no point in treating an aircraft if, due to Wx, the take-off throughput is limited (e.g. only one RWY at places were regular Ops use two).
If the treatment is applied too early before TO can take place you are bound to return to the de-icing bay.

Bigger picture.
Your destination airport may be also suffering from wintry conditions with slowed down traffic.
Hence, no need to allow for TO if you have a bottle neck at destination forcing you to hold.


Maybe this was the reason for your special and personal flight to be delayed.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
And if you don't know either and we both start complaining, we will publically show our common ignorance.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Bel33 » 22 Jan 2019, 21:36

SFV on route to Brussels from KIN as flight 1358. Arrival at 23:13
SN357 was diverted to Brazzaville today.
After this forced stop, take off to KIN as SN1357 (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... v#1f42396f)
And finally on route to Brussels with 18 hours delayed.
Political and safety reasons probably.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 22 Jan 2019, 22:52

luchtzak wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 16:08
Not everybody was happy with the snow, some tweets.
With all pax onboard on time, my flight eventually pushed back 1 hr 47 min late. The reason: waiting for the de-icing truck.

What I learned today is that the responsibility for de-icing is not on the airport, but on the handling agent, in this case Aviapartner. Not enough equipment? The airport had the runways cleaned! Why not the handlers?
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by lumumba » 22 Jan 2019, 23:07

Bel33 wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 21:36
SFV on route to Brussels from KIN as flight 1358. Arrival at 23:13
SN357 was diverted to Brazzaville today.
After this forced stop, take off to KIN as SN1357 (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... v#1f42396f)
And finally on route to Brussels with 18 hours delayed.
Political and safety reasons probably.
Thanks
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Post by flightlover » 23 Jan 2019, 09:26

sn26567 wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 22:52
With all pax onboard on time, my flight eventually pushed back 1 hr 47 min late. The reason: waiting for the de-icing truck.

What I learned today is that the responsibility for de-icing is not on the airport, but on the handling agent, in this case Aviapartner. Not enough equipment? The airport had the runways cleaned! Why not the handlers?
Ah, you mean those handlers that had a strike over under staffing and badly maintained equipment? Not saying you are, but the more people flying for less than cost, the longer the waiting times will be when extra manpower is needed.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Hail Cyrilin » 27 Jan 2019, 18:44

sn26567 wrote:
22 Jan 2019, 22:52
With all pax onboard on time, my flight eventually pushed back 1 hr 47 min late. The reason: waiting for the de-icing truck.

What I learned today is that the responsibility for de-icing is not on the airport, but on the handling agent, in this case Aviapartner. Not enough equipment? The airport had the runways cleaned! Why not the handlers?
Are you sure it's all on the late de-icing ? De-icing is requested by crew and is based on a first come first serve base for most airlines (some get pre de-iced). Ctot or Tsat can also affect the arrival of the de-icing teams. I think Aviapartner has 2-3 de-icing teams available so when there are a lot of crews requesting it can take a while.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Airbus330lover » 28 Jan 2019, 12:15

Luke777 wrote:
19 Jan 2019, 09:59
convair wrote:
18 Jan 2019, 13:31
SN467 BRU-Kigali (SFU) turned around above Innsbruck and heading back.
I had already posted my doubts about the fuel contamination: not normal that there were no complaints from other acft that took from the same '' barrel'' there are other causes concerning these SFU problems ...still not known what exactly but i am sure it was not a fuel contamination...
Fuel contamination, can come from the fuel provider or with filters problems or from any other reason.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by luchtzak » 29 Jan 2019, 18:51

Snow expected from this night and tomorrow morning, might impact operations at Belgian airports. And traffic going to/from the airport.

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Post by Acid-drop » 29 Jan 2019, 19:28

Only they cried wolf last time, predicted a disaster, we had nothing.
This time nobody listens, and all weather conditions are there. everything is ready for the real show. Popcorn time people !
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Passenger » 30 Jan 2019, 21:36

A few newspapers report that a female passenger (45) died on a flight from Athens to Brussels, arrival at Brussels on Tuesday afternoon. She was accompanied by her husband, but he (and the crew) thaught that she was asleep. A post mortem investigation will have to determine the cause of her death.

It seems that only one flight matches the criteria: Aegean A3-622, 29/01/2019, scheduled 15h10-17h30, actual 15h28-17h14, operated by A320 SX-DVI (look at arrival time A3-622 and departure time A3-623):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/sx-dvi

(above is based with only newspaper articles as source)

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by convair » 30 Jan 2019, 21:47

Passenger wrote:
30 Jan 2019, 21:36
A few newspapers report that a female passenger (45) died on a flight from Athens to Brussels, arrival at Brussels on Tuesday afternoon. She was accompanied by her husband, but he (and the crew) thaught that she was asleep. A post mortem investigation will have to determine the cause of her death.

It seems that only one flight matches the criteria: Aegean A3-622, 29/01/2019, scheduled 15h10-17h30, actual 15h28-17h14, operated by A320 SX-DVI (look at arrival time A3-622 and departure time A3-623):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/sx-dvi

(above is based with only newspaper articles as source)
Probably that one indeed: on the link you supplied, the plane arrived early but left for Athens with a delay of 4.5 hours.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Passenger » 01 Feb 2019, 11:14

It seems that UR-CKL = Cavok Air An-12 is inbound for Brussels now:
https://www.flightradar24.com/CVK7041/1f5cef79

Normal routing seems to be Eindhoven-Gardaia (Algeria):
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ur-ckl

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Boeing767copilot » 01 Feb 2019, 15:26

Laurent Mercier, today on twitter:

Third time in 12 months that this plane @FlyingBrussels to New York has a technical problem. Going back to the gate 😤. Last time we got a eurowings plane and the other time it did not leave brussels and nobody informed us in NY. We will never take SNBA again on this route !!

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Post by Passenger » 01 Feb 2019, 15:31

Boeing767copilot wrote:
01 Feb 2019, 15:26
Laurent Mercier, today on twitter:

Third time in 12 months that this plane @FlyingBrussels to New York has a technical problem. Going back to the gate 😤. Last time we got a eurowings plane and the other time it did not leave brussels and nobody informed us in NY. We will never take SNBA again on this route !!
Return to the gate indeed for SN501 (OO-SFO) - and take off meanwhile with some 3 hours delay:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 1#1f5ce478

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Post by jan_olieslagers » 02 Feb 2019, 11:19

And today Saturday it is (for once! :) ) EBCI Charleroi Gosselies that suffers from a shortage of ice/snow clearing trucks, causing delays up to 6 hours.

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by PttU » 02 Feb 2019, 12:36

Passenger wrote:
01 Feb 2019, 15:31
Boeing767copilot wrote:
01 Feb 2019, 15:26
Laurent Mercier, today on twitter:

Third time in 12 months that this plane @FlyingBrussels to New York has a technical problem. Going back to the gate 😤. Last time we got a eurowings plane and the other time it did not leave brussels and nobody informed us in NY. We will never take SNBA again on this route !!
Return to the gate indeed for SN501 (OO-SFO) - and take off meanwhile with some 3 hours delay:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 1#1f5ce478
That was yesterday's flight: today already 2h delay...

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Luke777 » 02 Feb 2019, 14:34

Passenger wrote:
01 Feb 2019, 15:31
Boeing767copilot wrote:
01 Feb 2019, 15:26
Laurent Mercier, today on twitter:

Third time in 12 months that this plane @FlyingBrussels to New York has a technical problem. Going back to the gate 😤. Last time we got a eurowings plane and the other time it did not leave brussels and nobody informed us in NY. We will never take SNBA again on this route !!
Return to the gate indeed for SN501 (OO-SFO) - and take off meanwhile with some 3 hours delay:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 1#1f5ce478
Insiders confirm; the technical issues with the SNBA 330 fleet are increasing at a high rate, i am wondering how the ''specialists'' at this forum will explain this phenomenon

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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by sn26567 » 04 Feb 2019, 14:51

Brussels Airlines flight SN465 BRU-KGL-EBB-BRU skipped the Kigali stop on 2 February due to bad weather in Brussels: it departed from BRU 4 hours late.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -brussels/
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Re: Anomalies in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2019

Post by Darjeeling » 06 Feb 2019, 18:21

sn26567 wrote:
04 Feb 2019, 14:51
Brussels Airlines flight SN465 BRU-KGL-EBB-BRU skipped the Kigali stop on 2 February due to bad weather in Brussels: it departed from BRU 4 hours late.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/luft ... -brussels/


+ "... and the other which made the 8 to 10 hours road trip on a comfortable bus..."

I deeply respect your work guys, and acknowledge how dependent you are of PR departments of airlines to be invited for events. And certainly when it comes to "belgitude Brussels Eurowings Airlines". But please next time refrain from recopying what the spokesperson tells you say / write.

8 to 10 hours bus ride in the dark on eastern Africa roads is just something unacceptable from a company that charges very expensive average fares on the KGL route.

A professional company knows how to deal with a layer of 2 cm of snow (and without blaming BAC or Swissport). A crew should have been available to take over as soon as they noticed the originally assigned crew would be off-duty even with so-called extended duty rules. That's contingency management. That's professionalism. Would you ever imagine LH or LX doing this ?? :lol:

Some people here tend to wonder why LX gets all its advantages and why it is considered as "premium" but such saga is a good explanation. Brol chipotage Airlines is and will always be a low-profile low-management airline. A box of Neuhaus can't to anything about it...

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