25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

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What I don't get is why they cancel the flights... why don't they just say: hand luggage only?
maybe it's because I don't know that awful lot about aviation ;)
or I just want my flight tomorrow at 7am to fly...

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

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My cargos are suppose to fly ET last Thursday to HKG but I see there’s no cargo arrival/departure information at all from the airport website. Not sure if all are cancelled or what.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

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brabel wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:33 why they cancel the flights... why don't they just say: hand luggage only
Just guessing. Check-in staff and passenger assistants are also involved in the strike.

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I'd guess the reason is because pushback drivers and other ramp staff are also on strike. Hence, no boarding bridge moving, no stairs, no electrical power, no redcap with a load sheet etc. etc.
It's not only the loaders, it's pretty much all the ramp staff who are on strike.
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What about the airlines that usually use Aviapartner but aren't cancelling their flights? Are they using hand luggage only? I see ANA is one of the airlines handled by Aviapartner, but I can't imagine travelling to Japan with hand luggage only...

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Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so

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sean1982 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:57
Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:04One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.

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Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:39
lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:04One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Hey
It is a reaction to his statement who is violent and unfair.
To hope that they stay unemployed after a strike!

I think these people like there job but also need there job and has the right to strike without a stick behind there back.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:39
lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:04One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Agreed. Lumumba has multiple times made personal comments that are totally uncalled for.

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lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:49
Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:39
lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 12:04One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Hey
It is a reaction to his statement who is violent and unfair.
To hope that they stay unemployed after a strike!

I think these people like there job but also need there job and has the right to strike without a stick behind there back.
Even if it's a reaction: comments about people that are striking are allowed while comments about other forum-members are not.

When you strike till a company goes bankrupt you should accept there might be consequences. If you play with fire you might get burned! It would make complete sense for a new employer to take the work-history of candidates into account, and instigating and/or furthering this disproportionate strike doesn't look good on someone's resume.

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sean1982 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:57
Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
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Vic Diesel wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:12
sean1982 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:57
Established02 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 10:00 If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:40But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
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Vic Diesel wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:45
lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:40But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
In my opinion the only responsibility for the demise here is with the management.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:40
Vic Diesel wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:12
sean1982 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:57

I certainly hope so
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
Not all, but most indeed. However contrary to an office job, in aviation there is not a lot you can do on your own. Not to forget you will need multiple specialized people to get the plane ready to leave.

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Vic Diesel wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:45
lumumba wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 15:40But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
Contrary to what you believe, the grieve is widespread and therefore the action is well supported.

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Cd6785 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:37 My cargos are suppose to fly ET last Thursday to HKG but I see there’s no cargo arrival/departure information at all from the airport website. Not sure if all are cancelled or what.
Unlike the reports might suggest, the Cargo department is on strike also. But, as ever, well overlooked as there is limited impact for the general public.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

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Cd6785 wrote: 30 Oct 2018, 11:25 Anyone know if the strike will end by 0600 October 31 or will continue until who knows when?
I wouldn't hold my breath...

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