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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by KriVa » 30 Oct 2018, 10:26

Clap wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 08:27
Can anybody tell me if this strike still´s on? and qhat´s gonna happens with the other Aviapartner bases abroad Brussels?
Hi Clap, welcome at Aviation24.be!

As far as I know, the strike is still on today, 30/10. Last I heard is that some people at OST and LGG were on strike as well, to support their colleagues in BRU. No clue whether those actions are still ongoing or not.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Cd6785 » 30 Oct 2018, 11:25

Anyone know if the strike will end by 0600 October 31 or will continue until who knows when?

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Stij » 30 Oct 2018, 11:29

Welcome to Aviation24 Cd6785!

I guess nobody knows for the moment... follow our Forum and the Belgian News sites!

Cheers,

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by brabel » 30 Oct 2018, 11:33

What I don't get is why they cancel the flights... why don't they just say: hand luggage only?
maybe it's because I don't know that awful lot about aviation ;)
or I just want my flight tomorrow at 7am to fly...

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Cd6785 » 30 Oct 2018, 11:37

My cargos are suppose to fly ET last Thursday to HKG but I see there’s no cargo arrival/departure information at all from the airport website. Not sure if all are cancelled or what.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Established02 » 30 Oct 2018, 11:41

brabel wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 11:33
why they cancel the flights... why don't they just say: hand luggage only
Just guessing. Check-in staff and passenger assistants are also involved in the strike.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by KriVa » 30 Oct 2018, 11:48

I'd guess the reason is because pushback drivers and other ramp staff are also on strike. Hence, no boarding bridge moving, no stairs, no electrical power, no redcap with a load sheet etc. etc.
It's not only the loaders, it's pretty much all the ramp staff who are on strike.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by PttU » 30 Oct 2018, 11:51

What about the airlines that usually use Aviapartner but aren't cancelling their flights? Are they using hand luggage only? I see ANA is one of the airlines handled by Aviapartner, but I can't imagine travelling to Japan with hand luggage only...

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by sean1982 » 30 Oct 2018, 11:57

Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 10:00
If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by lumumba » 30 Oct 2018, 12:04

sean1982 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 11:57
Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 10:00
If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Established02 » 30 Oct 2018, 12:39

lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:04
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by lumumba » 30 Oct 2018, 12:49

Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:39
lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:04
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Hey
It is a reaction to his statement who is violent and unfair.
To hope that they stay unemployed after a strike!

I think these people like there job but also need there job and has the right to strike without a stick behind there back.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Jetter » 30 Oct 2018, 13:32

Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:39
lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:04
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Agreed. Lumumba has multiple times made personal comments that are totally uncalled for.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Jetter » 30 Oct 2018, 13:37

lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:49
Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:39
lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 12:04
One day maybe you will be in a difficult position maybe they you will understand them!
Lumumba, it's perhaps a bit uncautious to suggest that other people (who you don't know even) have never been through difficult periods in their professional or personal life.
Hey
It is a reaction to his statement who is violent and unfair.
To hope that they stay unemployed after a strike!

I think these people like there job but also need there job and has the right to strike without a stick behind there back.
Even if it's a reaction: comments about people that are striking are allowed while comments about other forum-members are not.

When you strike till a company goes bankrupt you should accept there might be consequences. If you play with fire you might get burned! It would make complete sense for a new employer to take the work-history of candidates into account, and instigating and/or furthering this disproportionate strike doesn't look good on someone's resume.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Vic Diesel » 30 Oct 2018, 15:12

sean1982 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 11:57
Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 10:00
If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by lumumba » 30 Oct 2018, 15:40

Vic Diesel wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:12
sean1982 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 11:57
Established02 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 10:00
If a new ground handler would step in and have a need to take over ex-Aviapartner staff, they may not necessarily feel obliged to take over those Aviapartner individuals that played a key role in this strike.
I certainly hope so
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by Vic Diesel » 30 Oct 2018, 15:45

lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:40
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
Best regards,
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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by lumumba » 30 Oct 2018, 16:02

Vic Diesel wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:45
lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:40
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
In my opinion the only responsibility for the demise here is with the management.
Hasta la victoria siempre.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by flightlover » 30 Oct 2018, 16:10

lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:40
Vic Diesel wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:12
sean1982 wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 11:57


I certainly hope so
Contrary to some others, I willingly state that I don't want to pose as a "Mother Teresa of Strikemongers" - and if I were on HR of a hypothetical new company to step in for the then-bankrupt AP, I would think twice before employing those individuals who were already responsible for strike their employer into bankruptcy once. It is not a question of empathy for those individuals - but a question of protecting all the other employees from such irresponsible hot-heads. Call me what you like for this opinion, I do honestly not give a damn.
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
Not all, but most indeed. However contrary to an office job, in aviation there is not a lot you can do on your own. Not to forget you will need multiple specialized people to get the plane ready to leave.

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Re: 25-31/10/2018 Aviapartner strike at Brussels Airport

Post by flightlover » 30 Oct 2018, 16:11

Vic Diesel wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:45
lumumba wrote:
30 Oct 2018, 15:40
But if I got it correct the huge majority is on strike here....maybe everybody!
I honestly doubt that each and every individual is wholeheartedly supporting this irresponsibly long wildcat strike. I guess it is as always: one group of opinion leaders convinced their colleagues into it. THOSE "opinion leaders" are the one I'd think twice about ever employing if I were the "new company". But we are not there... yet. AP is still existing, although this irresponsible action will greatly contribute to their demise.
Contrary to what you believe, the grieve is widespread and therefore the action is well supported.

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